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Chiayi Fun June 3rd, 2008 02:20 AM

SONY EX1 Housing
 
http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/tmtcman/a...2554&next=2814

Dean Sensui June 3rd, 2008 02:33 AM

Gates probably makes the best housings for any camera.

It would be my first choice, if I had the budget.

John Gilmore June 3rd, 2008 07:25 AM

There's also the Equinox HD10 for around half the money.

Chiayi Fun June 3rd, 2008 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Gilmore (Post 887667)
There's also the Equinox HD10 for around half the money.

thanks John Gilmore

Ray Bell June 3rd, 2008 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Sensui (Post 887587)
Gates probably makes the best housings for any camera.

It would be my first choice, if I had the budget.

It'd be nice to have if it didn't cost more than the camera....

John Woo June 3rd, 2008 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Bell (Post 887705)
It'd be nice to have if it didn't cost more than the camera....

That report says it will cost around 2 times the body of EX1

Paul Chiu June 3rd, 2008 09:06 PM

that underwater case belongs in New York's MOMA.

Joe Holley June 4th, 2008 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by John Woo (Post 888014)
That report says it will cost around 2 times the body of EX1

The Gates housing for the EX1 is $6860.00. We had the prototype here for a couple days, it is very impressive.

I will have some more photos of it uploaded today.

http://www.marinevisions.com/product...roductid=16345

Ray Bell June 4th, 2008 10:27 AM

Looks more like $7700.00 when you put the cheapest port and diopter in place...

Chiayi Fun June 5th, 2008 07:50 PM

My friend like Amphibico .

update

http://blog.dcview.com.tw/article.php?a=DjBQNwRmV2E%3D

Thierry Humeau June 6th, 2008 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiayi Fun (Post 887585)

I see in the list that there is an EWA Marine bag for the EX1. I am planning to take an EX1 on a river trip. Has anyone used it? I am just wondering if you can flip out the LCD screen with it. If not, it's got to be hard to frame shots by looking into the viewfinder through the plastic membrane. Also, I am wondering how easy it is to turn the camera on and off as the switch is pretty slippery.

Thierry.

Chiayi Fun June 6th, 2008 09:18 AM

I have see seatool housing for HVX200 today.

Looks great.

Dennis Dillon June 6th, 2008 11:37 AM

Gates
 
Hello all,
Just returned from the Galapagos. We had a prototype Gates for the EX1. It did a great job. The super wide port was not available at the time of our departure. I'm told it will soon be.
My issues are with the Sony switches. Their low profile (Power, ND, and others) require a soft touch when making changes from the mechanical thru hull controls.
I own and use many types of UW housings. There is a real comfort with the Gates mechanical control system. Yes this housing is not cheap, but who wants cheap when you are sealing up a 6500$ camera. The EX1 makes incredible images at a great price point. Gates has to develop housings for cameras at varying price points, but everyone has to remain dry, and operate in difficult situations.
Gates also installed a vacuum system which one would find on a Pace, Hydroflex or other high end housing. This is a must for me.
The EX with a fat battery and two 16 gig cards, meant I did not have to open the unit till we returned from our dives. Sealed it in the morning, and opened it when done.

Mike Williams June 7th, 2008 11:53 PM

In da bag
 
I too would like to know about the bag. Has anyone used it?

Ray Bell June 8th, 2008 09:13 AM

Dennis, Could you post some footage from the trip...

Thanks...

At this time, the Underwater setup choices, at least with the new Sony cams at this price range, seems to be the EX1 vs the Z7.

The EX1 being supported by Gates and the Z7 being supported by Amphibico.

The cam prices are pretty much the same price... the housing prices are very different...

Joe Holley June 30th, 2008 09:24 PM

Hey Everyone,
Just thought I would let those interested know that Gates is starting to ship their EX1 Video housing this week.

Chris Paporakis June 30th, 2008 10:29 PM

other EX1 housing options
 
There are 2 other manufacturers making housings for the EX1

Sealux, a german company that makes solid housings and Seatool a usa/japanese company.

Will hopefully get some info. on the sealux soon and post, some info on the Seatool below BUT as you can see was supposed to be ready in March but its been delayed for some reason



Seatool is developing, and will ship in March, a hybrid housing for the Sony PMW-EX1. Record, Zoom, and Focus will be controlled electronically, and other important camera functions will be accessed via mechanical controls.??This housing will be machined from solid, allowing the housing to be as small as possible and light in weight. Seatool's PMW-EX1 Housing features positions the cameras electronic viewfinder at a 45 degree upward angle for excellent ergonomics.??Accessory lens ports for Sony and Century Optics Conversion Lenses will be offered, including a 170mm optically coated glass dome port supporting fisheye and superwide adapters.

Chris Paporakis July 1st, 2008 08:19 AM

Sealux EX1 housing pic & price
 
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Just got reply from Sealux.

1 x HDZX1 with planeport and two moisture indicators 4159,66 €
Delivery time: 2-3 weeks

EX1 housing about same cost as camera :-(

Picture attached.

Perrone Ford July 1st, 2008 09:08 AM

I take it you some of you are unfamiliar with professional underwater housings. Many of them cost more than the cameras they protect. They have a very difficult job to do, and have to protect the cameras in some of the harshest environments possible.

My question is this...

Does the EX1 have a LANC port? In all the reviews I've read, I've never heard it mentioned. If not, then a mechanical housing like the Gates may be the only choice. Perhaps Ikelite will offer some support and then we should get a housing around the $1500 price point.

Ray Bell July 1st, 2008 01:26 PM

No, the EX1 doesn't have LANC support....

And yes, housings are expensive, for those of us that shoot underwater we are more
familiar with housings costing around $4000... not the $7000 that we are seeing these
days...


I think the EX3 has more available remote control than the EX1 ???

Randy Strome July 2nd, 2008 10:30 AM

There would be a strong market for a bare features "splash" or "surf" housing, that offered rigid protection, but would not need the depth capability of a dive housing.

Buck Forester July 2nd, 2008 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy Strome (Post 902213)
There would be a strong market for a bare features "splash" or "surf" housing, that offered rigid protection, but would not need the depth capability of a dive housing.

Amen! That's exactly what I am waiting for. I just want something to protect my EX1 while mounted on the deck of my kayak. The Ewa-Marine plastic bag approach would even be okay for me if it were mountable.

Ray Bell July 2nd, 2008 06:47 PM

You should be able to make those types of housings pretty easy...

Just go to a plastics shop and they can show you the items you will need....

you'll need the following:

a plastic tube that will house the camera and plate.
a flat plate to mount the camera to, it slips into the tube
a clear front cover on the tube that you point the camera out of
a back cover to close it all in...

If you want remote control you will need to purchase the control and feed it
thru a hole on the back cover....

If you want more control of the camera you can contact Ikelite and they have
the feed thru rods to control the camera buttons...

Rich Dykmans July 2nd, 2008 09:36 PM

This actually comes with a start/stop record mode which will work with the EX1 according to the folks at Epic. The EX1 will fit in the pro V1 or the ProHD (with the big battery)

http://www.epiccam.com/products/hous...ic-pro-hd.html

Swen Goebbels July 12th, 2008 02:49 AM

I have a Sealux housing form my PD-170 and I'm very satisfied with it. So I'll have a closer look to their new housing also for my Ex1.

Dennis,
The Gates Housing looks also very nice. But for what is that vacuum system good for? Can you please explain this to me.

Quote:

There would be a strong market for a bare features "splash" or "surf" housing, that offered rigid protection, but would not need the depth capability of a dive housing.
That would be also what I'm looking for. I normaly don't need the depth for my shootings. Also the price and the weight/space of the underwater housing is often a problem for me when I'm traveling via airplane. That Epic housing looks nice, but Ex1 gave me poor results in automatic mode which should be the problem with the Epic solution. Damn, this would be such a perfect solution for my PD-170, but HD is what we all are dooing now. Without controll the results can't be good.

Joe Holley July 12th, 2008 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Swen Goebbels (Post 906262)

The Gates Housing looks also very nice. But for what is that vacuum system good for? Can you please explain this to me.

The Gates Seal Check (vacuum system) allows you to check the integrity of the housing prior to putting it in the water.
Here's how it works:
Hook the system up and pull a vacuum to 10 Hg.
Leave the system connected for 3 minutes to verify that the vacuum is not lost. During the 3 minutes you can operate all the controls to ensure there are no problems.

We use this system on all of our housings, as well as on our rental housings. It's really nice being able to verify the seals prior to putting the camera/housing in the water.

Swen Goebbels July 13th, 2008 11:44 PM

Joe,

thank you for your detailed information about this! This really sounds like a great feature. I killed a small sony picture camera in the red sea, because there was one grain of sand between the gasket of the sony plastic housing. That camera was just 4 pictures "old" :-(

So now I allways check this very carefully, especially on my sealux housing for my Pd-170. I allways test this now first without a camcorder to make sure that no gasket is damaged. But you can never be 100% sure. Therefore the vaccum system sounds really like a great tool!

Paul Cronin July 14th, 2008 11:47 AM

I am renting the Gates housing from Joe Holley at Marine Vision for a shoot in two weeks. Joe has been a real pleasure to work with and I look forward to two full days of shooting with the housing. One day will be in the ocean at the surface and a few feet under and the second day is in a pool.

I will be trying both the flat port and the dome. Will see of the Sony Wide Angle fits also I will try the Century fisheye for a few shots.

Dan Miyahira July 16th, 2008 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck Forester (Post 902409)
Amen! That's exactly what I am waiting for. I just want something to protect my EX1 while mounted on the deck of my kayak. The Ewa-Marine plastic bag approach would even be okay for me if it were mountable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Strome (Post 902213)
There would be a strong market for a bare features "splash" or "surf" housing, that offered rigid protection, but would not need the depth capability of a dive housing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swen Goebbels (Post 906262)
I have a Sealux housing form my PD-170 and I'm very satisfied with it. So I'll have a closer look to their new housing also for my Ex1.

Dennis,
The Gates Housing looks also very nice. But for what is that vacuum system good for? Can you please explain this to me.


That would be also what I'm looking for. I normaly don't need the depth for my shootings. Also the price and the weight/space of the underwater housing is often a problem for me when I'm traveling via airplane. That Epic housing looks nice, but Ex1 gave me poor results in automatic mode which should be the problem with the Epic solution. Damn, this would be such a perfect solution for my PD-170, but HD is what we all are dooing now. Without controll the results can't be good.

This site may be of some help.

http://www.splwaterhousings.com/sony_XD_EX_HD.html

They make splash housings out of aluminum and plexiglass and you can add some custom controls. Price is to be quoted so you will need to contact them but the price is nowhere near the prices of the Gates housings. These housings are used mainly for capturing surf footage and have a depth rating of about 15-20 feet. I have tried the Ewa-Marine "bags" on DSLRs and a Sony HC-1 and found them very difficult to operate in any mode other than auto. If you just want to turn the camera on and off and keep it waterproof, the bag was fine. Just be cautious of fogging that may occur inside the bag as is will be subjected directly to the sun.

Aloha,
Dan


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