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Paul Kellett September 19th, 2008 05:04 AM

Ah, i missed that, i was in the store buying other things when i spotted it, it was only £15 so i bought it, ah well, it might come in handy for something.

Paul.

Ross Herewini September 19th, 2008 05:33 AM

Upgraded to v1.11. Tried Lexar 8GB card. Performance is ok not stellar.
Limitations so far...

1. to go from record to stby to record again, if done too quickly will cause error and the card will need to be restored.

2. Found that waiting at least 2 secs between buttoning off and on will stop the error occurring.

3. when comparing against Sony card, sony wrote info from cache to card in 4 secs from recording stop, ie activity light above card went from red to green.
Lexar 8 Gb took 9 secs to do the same.

4. removing several clips from a full card and trying to record again caused the restore error, as the card is too slow in a random write.

Rules so far,

1. Start with clear card
2. don't delete any clips
3. leave at least 2-3 secs between records.

Fine for linear records like seminars/presentations.
will try the 16GB to see if it is similar in the constraints as above, or how much worse it is.

Ross Herewini September 19th, 2008 05:48 AM

Hi Steve,

Have you tried the Sandisk Multi Card ExpressCard™ Adapter ? I ask because I am having trouble finding the AFT, and after ringing Kingston, they told me the 33407 is obsolete in Australia!

Paul Newman September 19th, 2008 07:50 AM

I've ordered this

Sandisk Multi Card ExpressCard™ Adapter
SDAD-109-A11

at least it says it will handle SDHC cards on the unit.

Worth a punt...

I had exactly the same issues with the Lexar, clean card, long record no problems, but I've never lost
any data after restores.

Paul

Joe Diaz September 19th, 2008 08:01 AM

Ross, i bought the Sandisk express card last night and put it in my EX3 the door will not close because the memory sticks out a little to far. i didnt try it till i get the Extreme SDHC 16GB 30MB/s memory today.

Joe Diaz September 19th, 2008 08:09 AM

Paul, i bought the Sandisk expresscard yesterday and i will be trying it out today when i buy the Extreme SDHC 16GB 30MB/s memory. I did put memory in and put it in the EX3 the door will not close.

Paul Newman September 19th, 2008 08:36 AM

This is great, so many possibilities, some work, some won't - I'm gonna have the largest collection of adapters and media - never mind, it'll all get used, I'm normally shooting with 3 EX1's so I'm keen to resolve this issue.

Paul

Just off to the bar to pick up my mail, should be some Kensington/AFT and various media to test!

report later.

Steven Thomas September 19th, 2008 09:07 AM

Joe, maybe I'm wrong.
But I believe the SandDisk reader was found to not work in the EX1. It's posted here or in the "other" forum... Or maybe I'm mistaken.

Steven Thomas September 19th, 2008 09:22 AM

Yes,

The adaptors need to be SDHC compatible.
So far the working combo for the EX1 in all HQ modes (not S&Q):

Kensington 7-in-1 Media Reader & (NEW) SanDisk Extreme III 16GB SDHC 30MB/s version.

I'm on day 3 and have not seen one error.

I'm looking forward to trying the new SanDisk Extreme III 32GB SDHC 30MB/s version.


Also, although the Kensington card is working great so far, I am still looking for other expresscard adapters
that will work and allow the EX1 memory compartment to close.

The AFT allows it to close, but does NOT work with the EX1.

Andrew Hollister September 19th, 2008 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Thomas (Post 939563)
The AFT allows it to close, but does NOT work with the EX1.

Confirmed.

Steven Thomas September 19th, 2008 10:26 AM

LOL...
Man, there's going to be a lot of these expresscard adapters on ebay... LOL

Joe Diaz September 19th, 2008 11:12 AM

Steven, you maybe right i wasnt sure if i read somewere to but i bought it anyway to try on the EX3, i can return to the store i bought if it does not work.

Brian Rhodes September 19th, 2008 01:07 PM

Updated List
 
Kensington 7 in 1 Media Reader for ExpressCard Slot" model number 33407EU
W/ Transend 8gb SDHC model ts8gsdhc6 SDHC cards & Scandisk SDHC 16GB Extreme III cards. WORKING WITH EX1 firmware 1.11 & EX3 SP AND HQ MODES. (Best so far)

Lexar 8GB SSD Express Card
WORKING WITH EX1 firmware 1.11 AND EX3 SP MODE ONLY


Lexar 16Gb SSD Express Card This card is slower than the 8gb
WORK WITH EX1 firmware 1.11 AND EX3 SP MODE ONLY error message no lost of data

SIGG 11/1 EXPRESS READER 11in1 ExpressCard Reader
WILL NOT WORK WITH THE EX1 firmware 1.11

Transend 8gb 16gb SSD Express card
WILL NOT WORK WITH THE EX1 firmware 1.11 or EX3

EXPRESS CARD TO COMPACT FLASH ADAPTER
WILL NOT WORK WITH THE EX1 firmware 1.11 EX3?


SONY MSACEX1 MEMORY STICK(R) DUO EXPRESSCARD(TM) ADAPTER
WILL NOT WORK WITH THE EX1 firmware 1.11 EX3?

SIGG 11/1 EXPRESS READER 11in1 Express Card Reader
WILL NOT WORK WITH THE EX1 firmware 1.11

AFT EXPRESS READER does work in the EX1 with some SDHC memory other than the new Sandisk Extreme III 30MB/s.. The problem is, it has occasional memory errors


PROExpress 7 in 1 reader w/ Panasonic 8GB SDHC
- Reader and card fit in the camera with the door closed
- Turn on camera "Need to format media" ... I blinked it was done
Camera set to 720P HQ, LCD reads 28 minutes available
- Recorded a couple quick bursts (3-5 seconds) works fine
Left camera for a long chunk, Media Error around:20 min (restored, clips were all fine)

Brian Rhodes September 19th, 2008 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Rhodes (Post 933419)
oK.. Steve I will order one today and test it if it dos not work I will keep and use it to off load my still pics from my Canon 5d's. I have a Sony 306x 46mb/s CF CARD. that I can test it with.


CFExpressPro+ PCIe ExpressCard to CompactFlash Memory Card Adapter 2.5Gbps
TESTED WITH Sony 306x 46mb/s CF CARD AND TRANSEND 32GB CF CARD X133
UNKNOWN MEDIA WILL NOT WORK.

Brian Rhodes September 19th, 2008 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Rhodes (Post 933419)
oK.. Steve I will order one today and test it if it dos not work I will keep and use it to off load my still pics from my Canon 5d's. I have a Sony 306x 46mb/s CF CARD. that I can test it with.


CFExpressPro+ PCIe ExpressCard to CompactFlash Memory Card Adapter 2.5Gbps
TESTED WITH Sony 306x 46mb/s CF CARD , TRANSEND 32GB CF CARD X133, Scandisk 4GB EXTREME 4
UNKNOWN MEDIA WILL NOT WORK.


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