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Zsolt Gordos November 26th, 2008 07:09 PM

Darek, great picture - congratulations! Have you stayed in Sipadan or Mabul? I remember this oil platform lookalike place in the middle of the sea in Mabul serving divers as hostel. Have you stayed there and took trips to Sipadan? Have you taken something on the land, too? There are pretty amazing places in Sabah, I wont mind seeing your footage if you got some.

cheers

Piotr Wozniacki November 26th, 2008 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Darek Sepiolo (Post 969195)
Dzięki. A Ty co kręcisz?
I jeszcze pytanie o nanoflash. Pisales, ze cos wiecej wiesz... zdradzisz jakies szczegoly? Miales okazje to testowac?
D

Hi Darek,

Let me use English, as our Polish diacritics look awful for people without the right code page installed :)

I mainly do classical and jazz live performances. As to the NanoFlash - unfortunately I've been asked to keep it secret for now, but I can tell you it's certainly worth waiting for!

Cheers

Piotr

Erik Phairas November 26th, 2008 09:14 PM

speaking of big screen. I recently learned the cameras used in the latest Star Wars movies were all closely related to the Sony F900.. which I then quickly did a search to see if anyone compared that camera to an Ex1/3. I found one that was testing about 8 cameras and always put the EX1 just below the F900..

So let's make a feature film! :)

Darek Sepiolo November 27th, 2008 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Piotr Wozniacki (Post 969484)
Hi Darek,

Let me use English, as our Polish diacritics look awful for people without the right code page installed :)

I mainly do classical and jazz live performances. As to the NanoFlash - unfortunately I've been asked to keep it secret for now, but I can tell you it's certainly worth waiting for!

Cheers

Piotr

I'm thinking of investing in NanoFlash or waiting for Scarlet. EX1 is a great camera but for my underwater productions I'd preffer a smaller one and here comes Scarlet. We'll see when Nano is available. Any predictions of the release date?

Alex Raskin November 28th, 2008 12:20 AM

Darek, Scarlet has a totally different workflow than EX1, as far as I understand... this does not scare you? :)

Plus, which Scarlet - they have 4 different versions now.

Chuck Spaulding November 28th, 2008 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Raskin (Post 968070)
For EX1 movie projections, have you tried stand-alone media players like WD HD Media player, or Popcorn Hour A-110? (latter has component outs, while former features HDMI only.)

Both can output 1080p24, as far as I understand the specs.

So all one should do is encode the movie into MPEG2 or WMV, copy it to the respective device's hard drive - and here is your HD video player that's 3-5 times cheaper than the proposed MacMini.

I purchased the WD HD TV from Best Buys yesterday for $129. I don't have an external hard drive at home to test this with, but I encoded an HD file to H264, saved it to a USB thumb drive and it played it fine. However, it would not fast forward or rewind. I'm not sure if this is because I was using a thumb drive, so I'll try it again tomorrow.

This has a lot of promise but if I can't scan forward and backwards it probably won't work for what we need.

I didn't test different frame rates, but I did test 720P, !080i and 1080P and it worked fine.

Darek Sepiolo November 28th, 2008 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Raskin (Post 969871)
Darek, Scarlet has a totally different workflow than EX1, as far as I understand... this does not scare you? :)

Plus, which Scarlet - they have 4 different versions now.

It's not that bad. There's native support for R3D files in FCP. I've already tested the workflow and it's quite simple. Nobody knows what Scarlet will be like but I'm pretty sure it'll be a great tool.

Piotr Wozniacki November 28th, 2008 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Darek Sepiolo (Post 969789)
I'm thinking of investing in NanoFlash or waiting for Scarlet. EX1 is a great camera but for my underwater productions I'd preffer a smaller one and here comes Scarlet. We'll see when Nano is available. Any predictions of the release date?

Not this year, I'm afraid... But again, it's worth waiting for!

Darek Sepiolo November 28th, 2008 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Piotr Wozniacki (Post 969927)
Not this year, I'm afraid... But again, it's worth waiting for!

I hope so :)

Erik Phairas December 10th, 2008 07:54 PM

Hey serious question... When are we going to see our first feature length movie shot with an EX cam? Just so I can brag that I own the same camera would be awesome.

"Yea, that horror movie we just watched, shot on the same camera I own."

Alex Raskin December 10th, 2008 08:53 PM

I would not be surprised to learn that a number of indie features were shot with EX1 already.

For sure, EX1 was used at least as B camera on many productions.

Craig Seeman December 10th, 2008 08:57 PM

Here's some stuff. Not primarily features but it's in there. "S.N.U.B" Angry Badger Pictures. Behind the scenes stuff for James Bond "Quantum of Solace" so that'll be on DVD I suspect.
http://www.sony.co.uk/res/attachment...7064695918.pdf

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Originally Posted by Erik Phairas (Post 976039)
Hey serious question... When are we going to see our first feature length movie shot with an EX cam? Just so I can brag that I own the same camera would be awesome.

"Yea, that horror movie we just watched, shot on the same camera I own."


Alex Raskin December 10th, 2008 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck Spaulding (Post 969904)
I purchased the WD HD TV from Best Buys yesterday for $129. ... it would not fast forward or rewind.

You mean you got a WD Media Player, correct?

I don't have that model, but I did purchase Popcorn Hour A-110, and it is just gorgeous :)))

Awesome picture and sound, and yes you can seek forward or back on any video file. I used files off of the external USB drives of different types (although not flash media yet), and streamed over network as well.

Erik Phairas December 10th, 2008 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig Seeman (Post 976065)
Here's some stuff. Not primarily features but it's in there. "S.N.U.B" Angry Badger Pictures. Behind the scenes stuff for James Bond "Quantum of Solace" so that'll be on DVD I suspect.
http://www.sony.co.uk/res/attachment...7064695918.pdf


Ha that is great! I hope it's just a matter of time before some high profile movie takes a chance and uses it as a primary camera. I wonder is Panasonic/Canon and the others are kicking themselves for all the attention the EX cams are getting?

Craig Seeman December 10th, 2008 10:07 PM

Docs yes, TV shows maybe but certainly a B camera. "High Profile" Features you're not likely to see less than a Sony F23. RED would be lower budget.

David Lynch's Inland Empire was shot on a Sony PD-150 so it's possible a maverick like him might find the EX convenient and good.

Features are likely going to want the Depth of Field of large chip and lightly or uncompressed codec for compositing and possible very heavy color correction.

Certainly a good "dogma 95" film can be done on an EX and some films of that genre have been big hits. "The Celebration" won at the Cannes Film Festival.

Here's another low budget feature shot on EX1 mentioned on DVInfo sponsor Abelcine
Abel Cine Tech - Shooting an Independent Feature with the Sony EX1


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