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Paul Frederick July 9th, 2009 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Allen (Post 1169594)
This is very good news for me doing location work. Thanks for bringing it up. I'm sure it will be simple and reasonably fast. Exactly what I want on location. And since it's Sony it should be reliable and work happily with EX. I don't want to play with laptops or hook up USB devices on location. Great news.

I saw somewhere the list price for this is in the $2k's!! More than the price of a laptop. Why does SONY kill it's technology with such high prices? If the cards were cheaper we'd all be buying them. If this was cheaper, I'd buy one, instead, I'm all over the MxR route. SONY, it's a new financial world out there....price accordingly and you may move some units.

Doug Jensen July 9th, 2009 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Allen (Post 1169594)
This is very good news for me doing location work. Thanks for bringing it up. I'm sure it will be simple and reasonably fast. Exactly what I want on location. And since it's Sony it should be reliable and work happily with EX. I don't want to play with laptops or hook up USB devices on location. Great news.

Max, that's exactly what I was thinking.

I'm even toying with the idea of using the cartridges as my long-term archive. At around $400 per cartidge, that might seem expensive, and I wouldn't argue with anyone who disagreed with that approach, but for me, I think it makes sense. Time is money. Peace of mind is priceless. This is my business, my reputation, and my livelihood. Saving a few bucks on media does not appeal to me. That's why I don't shoot on SD cards, either. That's just my two cents.

I have been assured that the street price of the unit will be $1500 or less including one cartridge.

Dave Nystul July 9th, 2009 09:19 PM

As a side benefit, now that 13 MBP seems like it makes sense. It was disheartening to hear the announcement regarding the expresscard slot going away from the 15. Now with the Sony MS-240 I won't have to lug around my 17" MBP. The bloom has been off that rose for a long time. Thanks for the update Doug.

Dave

Max Allen July 10th, 2009 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug Jensen (Post 1169608)
Max, that's exactly what I was thinking.

I'm even toying with the idea of using the cartridges as my long-term archive. At around $400 per cartidge, that might seem expensive, and I wouldn't argue with anyone who disagreed with that approach, but for me, I think it makes sense. Time is money. Peace of mind is priceless. This is my business, my reputation, and my livelihood. Saving a few bucks on media does not appeal to me. That's why I don't shoot on SD cards, either. That's just my two cents.

I have been assured that the street price of the unit will be $1500 or less including one cartridge.


Amen Doug.

On MXR, I think it can serve some purpose as replacement media when shooting in remote locations or foreign countries. If for some reason the SxS are stolen, lost or destroyed while on a job SD cards are more available. So I keep one MXR adapter on hand.

Dave Morrison August 19th, 2009 07:45 AM

8 gig SxS going away?
 
I just looked on B&H this morning and it shows the 8gig SxS card as "Discontinued". Could this be true? I realize that there the 16gig cards might be dropping price due to the availability of the 32's, but losing the 8's would make my archiving to DVD-DL a bit more clumsy. Anyone else heard anything about this from Sony or is it just poor labeling by B&H?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...B_SxS_PRO.html

Doug Jensen August 19th, 2009 08:24 AM

False
 
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Originally Posted by Dave Morrison (Post 1242258)
I just looked on B&H this morning and it shows the 8gig SxS card as "Discontinued". Could this be true? I realize that there the 16gig cards might be dropping price due to the availability of the 32's, but losing the 8's would make my archiving to DVD-DL a bit more clumsy. Anyone else heard anything about this from Sony or is it just poor labeling by B&H?

Sony | SBP-8 8GB SxS PRO Memory Card | SBP-8 | B&H Photo Video

I checked with my contact at Sony who oversees tapes, discs, optical media, etc. and he says the rumor is false. The 8GB cards have not been discontinued --- that is, as of today. Anything can change at anytime.

Matthew Hurley August 19th, 2009 08:29 AM

As both the EX1 and 3 are still being sold world wide, i would be hard pressed to believe sony would discontinue both the 8 and 16 gig SxS cards.

Then again, i have seen sony do some strange stuff in the past.

Ben McElroy August 19th, 2009 01:41 PM

Interesting thread.. what about hoodman's adapter?
 
Who would even buy Sony SXS cards anymore though? when they have this:
RAW SxSxSDHC Memory Adapter-Hoodman Corporation

We've done extensive testing with the new memory adapter and the SDHC 16GB, class 6 chip. We found that 1920x1080 30p, 24p work fine for extended periods of shooting up to 1 hour on the 16GB.

Matt Davis August 19th, 2009 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben McElroy (Post 1243421)
Who would even buy Sony SXS cards anymore though

- People doing 720p60 and 720p50
- People shooting slomo at 720p
- People who find it easier to give client (or archive) a BPAV burned to a DL-DVD-R
- People who have been spooked by SDHC
- People who find that 8 GB SxS are cheaper per megabyte than 16 GB SxS

Not everyone will find themselves in one of those categories, but hooray for choice, eh?

Ben McElroy August 19th, 2009 02:18 PM

Good points.. It's up to you to make the choice.
Its worked great for us and our workflow. We do mostly corporate production and don't really need the pass raw files to clients or shoot in over and under-crank modes.
If your looking for a cheap alternative to SxS its the way to go.

Vincent Oliver August 23rd, 2009 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Daviss (Post 1243431)

- People doing 720p60 and 720p50


Not everyone will find themselves in one of those categories, but hooray for choice, eh?

Is there a problem with shooting 720p50 or 60 using SDHC cards?

I have just shot over three hours of material in Wales using 720p50 using four 16gb Transcend cards each in their own Kingston 7 in 1 adapter. I can't see any fault in any of the clips.

Robert Bale August 25th, 2009 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Vincent Oliver (Post 1261923)
Is there a problem with shooting 720p50 or 60 using SDHC cards?

I have just shot over three hours of material in Wales using 720p50 using four 16gb Transcend cards each in their own Kingston 7 in 1 adapter. I can't see any fault in any of the clips.

Nope all i shoot is 720P50 works well.

Dave Morrison August 25th, 2009 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug Jensen (Post 1242375)
I checked with my contact at Sony who oversees tapes, discs, optical media, etc. and he says the rumor is false. The 8GB cards have not been discontinued --- that is, as of today. Anything can change at anytime.

Doug, I just got an interesting response from B&H when I questioned their listing of the 8 gig SxS Sony card as "Discontinued". When I pointed out this discrepency, they wrote back with this:

"We would be carrying the 8GB card from SONY if it was available to us..."

Wonder if Sony is playing games with B&H? The rep did suggest getting the SanDisk card instead but since SanDisk doesn't even list their SxS cards on their site, have HAVE to wonder what's going on with these smaller cards.

Joachim Hoge August 27th, 2009 02:07 AM

Same here in Norway, the biggest retailers only stock the 32GB card now.

Doug Jensen August 28th, 2009 01:53 PM

Almost true
 
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Originally Posted by Dave Tyrer (Post 1168774)
I've just been informed that as of today Sony are no longer doing the 8GB or 16GB SxS cards.

I just got confirmation from Sony that 8GB cards have been discontinued, although some resellers may have enough in stock to keep selling them awhile longer.

16GB cards have NOT been discontinued.


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