Has anyone tried the EX1r update? There is a footnote that slo mo wont work with the adapter. If its only the adapter, I cannot care less, as overcranking works fine with my MxM, however if this update has some trick to disable slo mo with SDHC cards, then perhaps my MxM wont work anymore.

So please if anyone installed it already, let me know how it works with a generic adapter and card (I own ATP cards).

Important issue indeed!
I hope Sony won't update the EX1R to reduce its current great capacity to work with SDHC cards adapters. I use S&Q with them without problems until now.

Please Sony, don't be Apple!
Thanks! I trust you won't disappoint us.

Still, for now, I downloaded the upgrade but will wait to hear about how the new fw performs with the adapters. I have the MXR's with a 16Gb and a 32 Gb sandisk.

My EX1r seems to work just fine for 60p overcrank using SD cards with the new firmware upgrade.
I have Transcend, Hoodman, and Sandisk 16 GB cards, and a variety of adaptors.

Tried to install the firmware on my EX3 using a Mac Powerbook G4 with 10.4 (Tiger) just to see if it would work. The software installer coughed and wouldn't proceed. Tried it on a Mac Pro running 10.5 (Leopard) and it worked. I got a few vague warnings about disconnecting the USB connection. Wasn't clear if it was stating that I unplugged the unit or warning me not to. The dual stage install process is a bit unnerving. I have never encountered a firmware update where you have to reboot the item being flashed in the middle of the process. Firmware installed fine.

Did some quick tests using Sandisk Extreme II 16GB cards with both a Kensington and a Delkin adapter at 60 frames over cranked. Worked without dropping frames doing about 2 minutes of recording on both cards/adapters. The zoom speeds and thresholds are unaffected as stated earlier.

downloading it now - very slow link 15 minutes for 20MB.


This is it: Binary Package V1.20 [ SS03GB_1.ZIP, 20.58 Mb ]

linked as from first post.

Trouble conncting PMW EX1
 

I have downloaded and uzipped the files.
The first step in conncting the camera by USB fails

I can connect the camera by usb to transfer files via clip browser.
Is there another driver I need to install?

I presume when connected I switch on the camera and not media. Help please.

I am using windows 7.

Overcrank possible with SD cards !
 

I confirm : after updating to the new firmware my ooooooold EX1, I can now shot overcranking using E-LCR with 32 GB sandisk SDHC ! And no more errors when formatting the cards or during the cam switch-on. And yes, at the end of one shot on SDHC, the writing time seems to be shortest.

A real update !!!

I don't note other issues with this new firmware...

Enjoy it !

W.

Which camera USB port did you use? My guess is you are using the media port. The upgrade port is the one under the little plate you remove by taking out the little screw. (Emphasis on little for both parts.)

Yes, you turn the camera on by setting the switch to the left. (But it might also work on media setting. Don't know, never tried and the instructions don't say.)

Pete

Thanks Clark

Yes I was using the media port.

Have located the update port and updating as I write,

How long should the EX1 update take? I don't want to have a panic attack at 5 minutes if it takes 10. :)

About 15 minutes

MxR after the update?
 

Did anyone try yet on the PMW-EX1 to see whether the MxR adapter still works after the firmware update?
I saw several using the EX3 and MxM reported no issue on this matter, but what about the EX1 and the MxR adapters?

Thanks in advance.
Armando.

No trouble, but I did loose 2 mins of record time on both my SxS and KxS-Transcend cards.
I have a EX3 and does anyone else on this board, has this happen to them?

EX1 also 2 minutes per card lost.

Can anybody provide a link for the Ex3 firmware upgrade as the Sony site does not seem to respond using Google Chrome?

Thanks

Greg,
are you seeing this using the adapters (like MxR, MxM) or with the original SxS cards?

About the link I get this one from my browser:
http://supportdocs.sonybiz.net/sf/0/3/G/C/SS03GC_1.ZIP

Thanks,
Armando.

Armando

Thanks for your reply.

I use S X S and Sansa SDHC with the Kingston adaptor if I need extra recording time.

I have two EX1 which I have just upgraded the firmware.

A friend of mine has two Ex3s and that is why I asked for the link.

This certainly sounds like a firmware bug - why loose 2 mins, even with the original SxS?!!

Thanks for the info you have provided.
I have couple of MxR adapters and wanted to make sure they will still be supported after the firmware update.

This thread is a MESS to follow. People are reporting record time changes and S&Q changes without posting all the details.

How about listing ALL the following in you posts:
Camera upgraded: EX1, EX3, EX1r, 350
Features gained or lost with Adaptor (LIST Adaptor) and/or SxS card.
None card related features gained or lost.
Changes in Menu specifically.

I reported overcrank 60p in 720/25P recording mode with Kensington/Transcend 16gB class 6.
Unfortunately it was just with the first combination it worked with no limits. My other Transcend cards are not able to overcrank to 60p in more than about 20 - 30 seconds.
EX3 - 1.1

Have anybody tried if the the Transcend 32gB SSD disk works now - after upgrade???

Why are we updating out EX1 cameras with this firmware? The release notes don't seem to offer any real advantage over firmware 1.11 as far as I can tell. Only (apparently) 2 minutes less record time.

John

EX3 bricked after firmware update!
 

Hi all,

Yesterday, I installed the firmware update onto my EX3 - everything went fine until the end, also with rebooting the camera in the middle of the process.

However, when the process was finished, I clicked Exit and the application crashed. The EX3 did not exit the update mode, the red light was still on. After waiting for some minutes without any change (and after trying to re-start the update tool that said it doesn't recognize the camera) I decided to switch the camera off and on again. It has stayed off ever since - no life sign whatsoever, not recognized by the computer and that's it.

To make matters worse, was told on Sony PrimeSupport hotline that "problems stemming from self-installations of the firmware are not covered by Silver Support contracts". WTF???
First they decide to release a firmware update in order to save time and money, basically saying "let the customers do the dirty work", and then they deny support for a $9.000 camera???

Found a contract repair center for Sony in Vienna that shares my opinion, they have it now, will take a look at it and agreed to charge Sony for this mess. Will let you know how it goes.

But BE CAREFUL WITH THIS UPDATE!

Very much my thoughts. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. See the post above.

Anyone tested if there is 2 min less record time or is it just adjusted time pre-readout ?

Why did I update? There are some reports in other threads and forums (fora?) that the new firmware allows the successful use of adapters and shdc cards that previously gave Media Restore errors.

Included in these reports are statements (not yet corroborated by Sony) that the firmware update modifies the way the camera handles data overflow. If true, that would explain why formerly "reluctant" sdhc cards and adapters are now more accommodating.

Anything that improves the reliability of sdhc adapters has to be a good thing, right?

Pete

upgraded EX1 from 1.11 to 1.20, no problem, formatted cards (SxS 16g) , still showing 55min in 1080HQ.

Just some speculation but I wouldn't doubt that the improved SDHC performance and shorter record times are related. It may be reserving some buffer space on the cards themselves. Of course this is affecting SxS cards too.

One would hope that the EX1/3 would have record cache added but I think one person already posted negative.

I really truly wish people would be more complete in their posts.

True and early adaptors must be applauded for being brave. But I'd rather other people discover the "undocumented features" grenade that Sony have a habit of throwing our way. My camera works and I hope to keep it that way.

2 months down the line I might change my opinion. Of course if a load of people have "bricked" their camera then I might have been proved right in waiting.

My guess is it is possibly reserving some kind of space for buffering or CRC checks. But I'd rather know what is actually going on before taking a leap of faith.

If you are happy with your EX1/EX3 then don't need this new firmware update.

For Sony EX1:
1. You will need to read the "PMW-EX1_1.20_ReleaseNote.pdf" which stated:
"Major functions updated with V1.20
Usable media
- SxS-1 series memory card added
- Memory Stick PRO-HG Duo HX with MEAD-MS01 Media Adaptor
- SDHC card with MEAD-SD01 Media Adaptor"

2. Read "Installation_Instructions_EN.pdf" (for English).
and follow it step by step. But if you don't have much experiences with computer (just an end user only) then you should not do it yourself - ask someone else do it for you. It will take less than 20 minutes.

The special tools: Phillips size 0 screwdriver to open the cover for USB port (Instruction has picture of the location)

For winXP user, you will need to install the .NET Framework 3.5 prior to install update software.

Last - need to use power supply NOT the battery during the update

For some of us this update will save us some money: don't have to buy SxS Pro card. Now we can use other options with a peace of mind :-)

TuyLe

Seems to me this most valuable to those of us who have been too busy, cheap or paranoid to send our cameras off to Sony. I have four EX1's with very early firmware and so it's a no-brainer for me.
That said, I'm in the US and I'm disinclined to fib about my whereabouts when I register. Anyone who converses with Sony have an inkling as to the intentions of Sony US in regard to the distribution of this firmware?

Posts 40 and 55 in this thread have links that go directly to a Zip download. (I used the one in #40). You don't have to register. Click to allow the download, let your computer unzip the files, open the English language document, and follow the instructions.

This update was a lot less anxiety inducing than the first update to 1.11 last year. Be aware that the update is in two halves. The updater will ask you to turn the camera off and back on halfway through the update process.

Pete

Thanks, very helpful. I'd downloaded those zip files, opened them up and then become concerned that the exectuables were a vehicle for implementing the firmware upgrade rather than the upgrade itself.

Please see my post, it might answer some of your questions.......http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdc...ml#post1496195

Is "copy all clips" in the menu, as in copy all clips from slot to slot instead of one at a time ?
I believe this function is in the EX1-R, it'd be nice if the EX1 had it with this new firmware upgrade.
Maybe someone could check.

Paul.

Paul- All I see is the same "Copy Clip". I don't see a copy all.
Pete

EX1: with new firmware - can copy/delete ONE clip at a time

This is very important for people to understand before doing the firmware update. When you do it, it will pause around the 50%, a message will come up clearly stating what you should do about powering the camera down for 10 seconds and then powering it back up and then continuing the firmware update process by clicking a button for the update to continue.

One thing that to be mindful of... towards the end of the second part of the update it appears to hang around 99%. The wait is painful. Patiently wait. It takes a couple of minutes for the update to "wrap up" once it hits the 99% mark. At least it did for me.

A message will come up at the end stating that the update is complete, once successfully done.

Copy All Clips ... didn't see it with new firmware
 

I looked through all the menus and did not see copy all clips with new firmware installed.