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Alastair Traill October 22nd, 2010 07:01 AM

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does the auto focus switch have to be set to AUTO?? It isn't mentioned in the above video. Could be a major duh moment on my part!!!!!

It may not be mentioned in the video but it is mentioned on page 33 of the manual (see above). According to the manual it should be on.

What I have not seen mentioned is what aperture one should aim for. I would guess the camera's task would be easier if the adjustment could be undertaken at full aperture and thus minimum depth of field.

Darren Ruddock October 22nd, 2010 08:58 AM

Hi Alistair,

Ah, thanks for that conformation. That shall be included in my next attempt this weekend.

I too have wondered about the aperture. If conducting the adjustment outside surely ND filtering is needed so the whole thing isn't blown out and the sweet spot for F stop can be obtained. As far as I know the adjustment should be done with no ND's in.

Alastair Traill October 22nd, 2010 03:31 PM

Hi Darren,

Placing a filter behind the lens effectively shortens the light path and changes the focal point. However when neither ND filter is used there is a clear "filter" in place, at least in my EX3. I would assume that this is to ensure the same apparent length of optical pathway whether there is an ND in place or not meaning that filter selection is unimportant.

However I suspect aperture selection could well have an effect. Any comments?

Luben Izov October 22nd, 2010 03:47 PM

Full Auto Focus
 
Hey Darren,
Please, just be sure that your camera is on full auto focus and let the camera do the job. I said that in my previous post. Full auto focus is the only thing that is required from you, plus light on the card. No ND filter at all. Plane, clean lens with/out clear filter (UV or IR like 486 Digital UV/IR), thats all. Good luck with it. Post how did go please.
Cheers

Darren Ruddock October 23rd, 2010 09:45 AM

Cheers fella's,

All good input. Will be testing again tomorrow hopefully (friends birthday this evening so I may be somewhat delicate tomorrow!)

I will follow all your advice. Something I totally forgot was to remove my T1 filter. Wonder if it makes a difference??

Will try and post results forthwith!

Vincent Oliver October 23rd, 2010 10:00 AM

Keep the aperture as wide as possible to avoid depth of field sharpness.

Not sure why the Andy in the video recommends using 1080 60i, I can't see what difference that will make, especially if you normally shoot 24, 25 or 30p.

Any suggestions?

Darren Ruddock October 26th, 2010 10:29 AM

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Hi guys,

Attached are the latest stills after back focus adjustment.

This time I removed my T1 filter and had the focus switched to the AUTO position! Also had ah F stop of 4.

I think the shots look a little better but still not sure.


Let me know what you guys think.

Much appreciated

Andy Wilkinson October 26th, 2010 11:10 AM

Yep, better lit and sharper. Look OK to me.

Darren Ruddock October 26th, 2010 12:07 PM

Cheers Andy,


I can definitely see an improvement. I think sometimes you look at something so much you can get lost!

This does seem better though!

Andy Wilkinson October 26th, 2010 12:17 PM

Hey, stop pixel peeping and spend the time to make some nice films/have fun with your camera!

Darren Ruddock October 26th, 2010 12:48 PM

Great advice for us all Andy!!

Daniel Epstein October 26th, 2010 03:56 PM

I sympathize with your problems trusting backfocus for the camera to the cameras electronics.You can still get a chart to see if there are any problems which show up.
I know the procedure I use for lenses with manual backfocus is critical to getting the right result. I use a backfocus chart from Arri, expose the chart with the f Stop wide open (either decrease the amount of light on the chart if it is too bright or use ND if the ND is built in) focus zoomed all the way in and then pull out full wide. Adjust to maximum sharpness. If you use a smaller F Stop then your results will not be correct when the lens is wide open. You have to be close enough to the chart so the pattern on the chart shows up clearly so depending on the size of the chart you may have to move closer to it but on zoom lenses you still should be farther than minimum focus but not necessarily ten feet away.
For Lenses with extenders do the back focus with out the extender. Check the result with the extender in to see if your lenses extender has problems or needs adjustment as the extender can give you a different result if it is not correctly aligned.

Pietro Jona October 27th, 2010 07:54 AM

Anyone knows where I can download a Siemens Star to print?
The guy who had it last time I checked backfocus lives far from me..

Darren Ruddock October 27th, 2010 02:13 PM

Hi Pietro,


I got my charts from here..

Free Charts

I coloured mine in after printing just to give them more contrast

Pietro Jona October 27th, 2010 02:17 PM

Darren

thank you very much.

pietro


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