XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

This from a person from Sony who visits some online communities regarding XDCAM ClipBrowser and XDCAM Transfer.

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

Well this is good news to hear that Sony is being proactive with Final Cut X. No surprise on the current 32-bit version of XDCAM Transfer 2.12. Those who are following Final Cut X know that it is a 64-bit application:
Preparing for Final Cut Pro X :: Silverado Systems, Inc.

FCPX is shipping:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/21/a...mac-app-store/
http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

Keep in mind we're also referring to Lion. There may be people using FCP7 under Lion as well as people using FCPX under Snow Leopard. That can result in compatibility complexity.

Key will be whether FCPX can see the .smi metadata to join clips. There's also lots of interesting metadata that ClipBrowser exposes that is not in XDCAM Browser (the new app currently at 1.2 and still feature weak IMHO). It's that app that will likely be further tested under Lion. The way it "registers" with FCP7 seems to be a real bother.

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

So this means that I can't "Import" my EX3 footage into FCPX? It won't see the BPAV folder and rewrap all the files into MOV files? In FCP7 I use the Log and Transfer function, but I guess I could use XDCAM Transfer instead.

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

From Apple's FCPX support page: Apple - Final Cut Pro X - System Requirements and Tech Specs

Supported Formats & I/O:
Sony IMX, XDCAM, XDCAM EX, XDCAM HD, and XDCAM HD422 import supported with additional Sony software

Mitchell, your right about using XDCAM Transfer to generate .MOV files. I can confirm that FCPX will import XDCAM-EX .MOV files into its timeline.

Get ready to put on your "learning/thinking cap." FCPX is radically different with many paradigm shifts from the way we currently manage media folders all the way to the final edit and delivery. I've already spent about 4 hours with tutorials and the FCPX using EX footage. Compressor 4 is mostly the same and Motion 5 seems to be quit an improvement. I will be staying with FCP 7 et.el. for some time because FCPX does not recognize nor is it able to work with FCP 7 legacy projects. It is a complete break with existing software. Cheers.

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

So you have to use XDCAM Transfer to edit XDCAM EX footage in FCPX? You tried importing the footage directly into FCPX?

Thanks Barry.

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

Mitchell:

1. Use XDCAM Transfer to generate .MOV EX-files
2. Use FCPX to import the .MOV EX-files
3. Use FCPX to compost, edit, color correct, sound edit and render then share or make DVD, Blu-ray discs.

Thus, at this time, FCPX will NOT recognize BPAV folders/footage. Sony is working to build a new 64-bit version of Log & Transfer. When it is available, then FCPX will be able to import footage from BPAV folders.
Cheers.

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

Thanks Barry. Good to hear that XDCAM Transfer footage works well with FCPX (as expected). Hopefully Sony will release some software soon, as personally I like it better than XDCAM Transfer, mainly because you can choose to import only Audio channel 1 or 2.

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

Just wondering ---
Have any of you tried the Sony Cinemon plug in with FCPX ??
Wondering if it works as well as in FCP, allowing you direct access to BPAVs without conversion, or if new X code breaks it ???

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

Is this still Sony's position on updating Log and Transfer for use with OS X 10.7 Lion for FCP7 users? Given the backlash with FCPX, I am just wondering if there has been a change on the update decision.

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

ClipBrowser and XDCAM Transfer have been EOL for some time. They will not be updated for Lion. It doesn't make a difference whether you're using FCP7 or FCPX on Lion.

XDCAM Browser will be updated (but no timeline given) and supposedly that will improve the use with FCPX.

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

Thanks. Am I safe to update to Lion and continue using the current version of XDCAM Browser and FCP7?

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

If past history is any experience, recalling apple's ability to leave compatability in the dust and break things that were working just fine (remember when the mouse driver in the unibody macs didn't like the SxS cards, or when an SxS card would cause a kernel crash in Snow leopard?) I'd wait and test on someone else's system before placing your workflow in jeopardy. Maybe a trip to the apple store to try it out there?

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

XDCAM Browser is not yet Lion compatible. Sony will do it but we don't know the time table.
Clip Browser and XDCAM Transfer are EOL and will not be made Lion compatible.

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

What is it with Apple users that make them want to jump to the new OS on day 1?

If we're talking your only production machine, leave well alone until it's been properly tested. Steve Jobs isn't going to come round to your house and shoot your pet rabbits because you didn't upgrade on day 1. Wait a month until it's been properly tested and you know your edit environment won't be impacted.

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

I think Jobs did used to eat hamsters though, or was that Freddie? or V from the 80's?
Something must be keeping him alive anyway! I want it whatever it is.

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion
 

I have just done a clean install of Lion 10.7 v11A511 to test the functionality of:
XDCAM Clip Browser v2.6
XDCAM Transfer v2.12

XDCAM Clip Browser works as expected with no error messages.

XDCAM Transfer will need FCPX installed so that the Pro App Sony codecs are installed. This is done using the Software Update from the System Preferences control panel. XDCAM Transfer starts as usual showing the Installed Components.

When you Add a BPAV clip for viewing, it will throw up a cryptic error message that does not appear in SnowLeopard. I have no idea what the error message means. After that the XDCAM Transfer seems to function as expected -- setting preferences all works, importing works as expected.

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

Wait a month?? I usually wait a year, and sometimes even that is not enough to be sure that all the bugs are out and that everything - like plug-ins - is working perfectly. I updated the firmware of my iPhone 4 and I have regretted it ever since. It's battery life has been shortened by 50% since the update.

My main computer principle nowadays is: if it works, and if there's nothing really essential that I desperately need in the update: don't touch it!

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

[QUOTE=Barry J. Anwender;1661354]Mitchell:

1. Use XDCAM Transfer to generate .MOV EX-files
2. Use FCPX to import the .MOV EX-files
3. Use FCPX to compost, edit, color correct, sound edit and render then share or make DVD, Blu-ray discs.

Hello Barry, I'm a new 17" Mac Book Pro user that has Lion installed. I also loaded FCPX and all the Sony components including updating XDCam Transfer. I can see my SXS card files on Transfer, but I don't see the option to generate .MOV files on the program. I just see "Export Clip to File" under File. Can you help me out? Thanks!

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

That's good advice. People seem to get into a habit of wanting the latest and greatest OS or firmware upgrade when in reality it may bring little benefit and will probably break things.

If something works and you are using it to earn money, hold off any upgrading unless you absolutely must. Wait and see what problems may arise.

I can't say Lion holds a lot of appeal for me at the moment. My current setup works fine and I only seem to be hearing bad things about it. Sure I'll upgrade at some stage but probably during the Christmas downtime so I won't hit any ongoing projects.

And if you are planning upgrading to Lion, make a clone of your boot drive first so you can revert back should you hit any problems.

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

[quote=Tony Newman;1677717]On XDCAM transfer, the operation that re-wraps the SxS files as QT files is "Import". In XDCAM Transfer preferences, you set the destination directory. When you click the Import button, it does the conversion and transfer to the destination folder.

Here's a video that may help: Sony VideON | XDCAM HD Workflow Using Apple Final Cut Pro | Workflow

Here's a PDF on workflow... XDCAM Transfer is on page 25:
http://www.videocorp.cl/minisitio/hd..._Workflow_.pdf

Here's Sony's PDF on the workflow:
http://pro.sony.com/bbsccms/assets/f...lCutPro_R1.pdf

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

Thanks Les! That was the help I needed! Awesome... -Tony

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

http://support.sonybiz.net/software/...=E&model=XDB-1

XDCam Browser 1.3 released, appears to support Lion, certainly works on my system. No support for FCPX though, you have to import files with the browser software outside of FCPX and import.

Re: XDCAM EX, SxS, Lion
 

Looking at the Lion upgrade in order to enable iCloud on my MBP - I also use the MBP's ExpressCard slot to ingest from SxS cards - can anyone confirm the SxS drivers / XDCAM EX ClipBrowser workflow is fine under Lion please? And also that FCP 7 is ok under Lion? (Not using FCPX yet)

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

I'm using Lion on a new 17-inch MacBook Pro. I installed the latest SxS drivers and XDCAM EX Clip Browser and they are both working perfectly. FCP7 is also working fine.

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

Cheers Mitchell.

Re: XDCAM EX, Final Cut Pro X, Lion - from Sony
 

Mitchell / anypne - can you tell me what are the latest SxS drivers' version number that work on Lion? I don't see any SxS driver (other than a UDF one) newer than 2009 at Sony UK:

Sony : XDCAM & XDCAM EX Software Downloads : United Kingdom