EX1R to laptop via HDMI?
 

Is it possible to record 10 bit 4:2:2 video to a laptop via an HDMI cable? what would the minimum laptop parameters be?

thank you!

Re: EX1R to laptop via HDMI?
 

Take a look here: Blackmagic Design: Intensity Models

There are many models available (from several manufacturers) that scale in price according to your needs. You'll need a modern laptop with a thunderbolt, USB 3, or some sort of PCI connection as well as a capture scratch disk (internal or external) that can keep up with the bandwidth. That would probably be a SSD or thunderbolt / USB 3 external RAID.

Re: EX1R to laptop via HDMI?
 

I'd probably do just as well with a nanoflash?

Re: EX1R to laptop via HDMI?
 

In terms of effort.... Maybe yes.

I really like the hyperdeck shuttle. Cheap and easy if you're ok with ProRes and can be plugged into power. Here's some interesting reading, by the way, dealing with the necessity of 8-bit vs 10-bit. I believe that not all NanoFlash recorders are the full 10-bit, but it may not matter...

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdc...bit-10bit.html

Re: EX1R to laptop via HDMI?
 

So they're saying that the quality gain from 10 bit over 8 bit isn't likely to be noticed because of the EX1r's "noisiness"?

But the quality gained from recording at 50 Mbps as opposed to 35 Mbps is worth it, yes?

Re: EX1R to laptop via HDMI?
 

I think so, yes. You're getting 4:2:2 color as well.

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The BM Shuttle 2 will send from the HD-SDI in to HDMI out and record from HD-SDI out from the EX1, so your get the best of both worlds with one.

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Shuttle 2 is fantastic, unless storage space of 220mbps is an issue.. About 1GB/min...

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I didn't realize the nanoflash was now $2k!

Re: EX1R to laptop via HDMI?
 

It's really not that bad. $350 for the Hyperdeck and about $100 per 128GB SSD that last about 90 minutes each. The issue is how to power it if you're away from AC. Also, remember you kinda need to use SDI to have proper start stop control from the camera. HDMI usually doesn't carry that information to start the recorder when you hit the red button on your camera.

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As for NanoFlash:
Yes, NanoFlash is 8 bit.
But...
As mentioned before, when coming from an EX1/1R/3 that tends not to be a drawback.
Nicest thing about the NanoFlash is its size, low power consumption and convenience.
I use it for Green Screen and Blue Screen shoots all the time, normally recording at 100Mbps 422.
My clients particularly like the fact that they aren't dealing with as much data as prores would create.
It's also served as a 'swiss army knife' recorder on set, sometimes acting as an HD-SDI to HDMI converter, or as a 'video assist playback' unit for clients.
Very versatile, always glad to have brought it in kit...

Re: EX1R to laptop via HDMI?
 

Answer is probably "yes" to both of those. Regarding the second question, then whether or not it's worth it depends who you're filming for - 35Mbs is pretty good, easily good enough for many applications, but yes, 50Mbs is better. As regards the first point, you may be interested in the discussion in this thread - http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/panasoni...ml#post1784630 - regarding 8 v 10 bit. 10 bit working can have advantages - but it's quite true that the noise levels of even a 1/2" chipped camera like the EX1 (let alone 1/3" cameras) mean there is a lot less advantage than many people think.

In particular, banding when the footage gets manipulated in post normally gets blamed on insufficient bitdepth. I suspect it's often compression issues, but it's far less intuitive to see why. I can only repeat what I said in that other thread if you're in doubt, a practical exercise to try which only takes a minute of two:
If you want the (very basic) reason why, then I've tried to explain why in the simplest systems why it should be so in post #4 of that thread. But hopefully anyone who tries that Photoshop exercise will no longer automatically blame any banding they see on 8 bit working......!

All the theory apart, then if you do decide better than the 35Mbs of the EX1 is needed, then I can't help wondering if trading it in against a PMW200 may be a better move than getting an external recorder.....?