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I struggled with the shoulder rig as well. with 'medium budget' and continues altering I came up with this vocas rig. Tried to keep it as light as possible and efficient on batteries. This rig runs 3 hours on the cams BU060 and a IDX Endura 7s and charging takes less time then draining.
I use a Marshall 7" monitor and the cineroid (notice the rubber band around it). Due to its weight I prefer the cineroid. Hence, most of the time I use the peaking function and as you see I use the IDX camwave wireless for the director. He gets a clear, uncompressed picture on another 7" Marshall in a comfortable handheld receiver set.
In sunlight nore the marshall or the cineroid works ok. I'm forced to use the viewfinders eyepiece but then you have the problem to keep it in places and (as this is a unique photo me not sweating) you get condens on your glass. Luckely with the peaking at the max, most of the time I come home with the right thing in focus...
I changed the shoulderpad filling from it's original rubberpad to soft foam because the rubber kills skin over bone on your shoulder and you get less sweating. The battery plate on the back with the transmitter and nanoflash as counterweight makes the cam less frontheavy. The grips are close to the body to conveniance in longer runs. grips far from the body is a killer. I have the left handle horizontal to run the starknob at the followfocus. There is just enough room to move the mattebox forward and change the lens. These Zeiss compact primes are great. With bigger lensesn it takes you more time to changes, cause you have to remove the VFarm. It has to be there otherwise it is in the way for iris and focus.

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Here's the ET rig:

Element Technica F3 Riser & Shoulder Pad Kit | CineTechnica

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did a job with red zooms and the ET Mantis, great handheld device!
got pretty heavy towards the end of the day, 2- 5.6 tvlogic monitors, bartech wireless focus, Oconnor Obox,swit96 battery and red plate with anton bauer battery.

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There is un update by Mitch Gross from Abel CineTech.

F3 Solutions: ET F3 Riser Mounting Options | CineTechnica

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As a test, I mounted the F3 (along with a Zacuto mini-baseplate) on the EXMount which I love for my EX3.
These are just quick demos, and it does elevate the camera a bit higher than one might like, but without the baseplate, the camera seats perfectly onto the mount (which snaps directly into a VCT-14 plate on the bottom) and gives a tidy handheld rig, minus any bells and whistles like a mattebox and follow focus. In this configuration, if you needed an external recorder, monitor etc- one could use the Berkey top plate...

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I couldn't agree more on current EVFs mounting hardware. One 1/4"-20 hole to attach a fairly bulky and exposed viewfinder is not enough. Zacuto's Zamerican arms are sturdy but too complexe and heavy. Someone needs to come out with a slimmer EVF design, with an eye piece that can be tilted up and down wiht one hand and that is solidly and elegantly attached to the camera. It looks like Kinotechnik's LCDVFe has taken this in condideration.

Kinotehnik - Overview

Thierry.

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I made the plunge and got a SmallHD DP4-EVF a few weeks back. I'm using a NAGA style arm at the moment but I will be changing the mounting solution in a couple of weeks. Will post up once I get it sorted.

I am very much liking the EVF on the page you have linked to Thierry. It sure looks promising. Mitch from Abel Cine Tech made some overtures about an EVF with a different approach coming out hopefully in a month or two. He's saying we should watch for it but won't disclose any more.

I am very happy with the DP4-EVF. As a focusing tool it doesn't get better than anything else on the market in the sub $1000 range. Mounting is the big issue with all of them.

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Ron,
I don't understand how do you attach the nano flash to the system. From the first picture it looks like it is attached to the battery, is that so?
Thank you for your input,
Eugen

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Latest iteration of getting this camera right for handheld:

Element Technica baseplate.

Camera Accessory Solutions Spidergrips

Zacuto knuckles and odds and ends to mount EVF without Noga arm, so you can move it with one hand during shot.

Camera is balanced *almost* perfectly, without adding any weight to counterbalance.

Geez, and it only took 7 months and $3000!

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Looks nice and clean Nate, but how could that setup be perfectly counterbalanced when most of the weight is fore of the ET shoulder mount...?

On my show we are running dual Dionic 90's with an AB whaletail and an MD-RDA off the rear rods from the ET baseplate and my guys report that it is pretty close to balanced but not perfect.

I'll get pix in at some point. The Aluras are looking quite dashing on the F3's.

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I edited to say "*almost* perfect"

I think it's a comparison thing. Compared to what I had before, which was the shoulder pad on the ET all the way out back and using the camera LCD 3 inches in front of my nose, it's a huge step forward. :-)

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This is the most professional and better balanced rig I've seen for the F3, which also mounts RED and other cameras. It's the new "Movietube CR" from Kinomatik, made in germany. They also make similar rigs for DSLRs.

The Movietube CR is essentially a baseplate and shoulder mount with tripod quick release in a single piece, that allows the accomodation of 15" and 19" front rods, even both at the same time if required. On the back there are telescopic rods that allow to balance the batteries and everything else on the rear, to compensate for heavier front rigs.
The system includes a very robust side arm with a top handle which accomodates an EVF, ENG lights, TFT monitors and shotgun mounts, plus it also comes with a video+power distributor, with 12V, 5V, 9V and 7.2V outputs.

The hand grips are optional, you can use theirs or any other you might like better. Those here rotate in the 3 axis.

It's not cheap but it's very well engineered and built.

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Have you seen this?

SONY F3 Support - Movcam.com

It doesn't look so bad after all... even though it's made in China.

shoulder_pad_unit-303-0201-001 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

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I have the Kinomatik CR and found the entire top assembly...the handle and especially the VF mounting hardware...to be completely useless and removed it. The CR parts I do like: the riser/shoulder pad that clicks right onto a sony plate, the included dual 15/19 rods and the rear battery slider.

Overall, if I had it to do again, I'd pass on it...or order it without the VF assembly.

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Both the Kinomatik and the Movecam look like they bring things up to 30lbs. Yikes, no thanks.

I promise I'm not trying to be a negative grump, but the Movcam in particular apes the Red side cages that most of the first 1000 buyers of the Red bought, and now nobody uses because they made the camera so bulky and heavy, plus the "problems" they solved could be solved in cheaper, lighter ways.

Those Red side cage parts now fetch zilch on the used market, nobody wants them. Cast aluminum boat anchors.