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Alister Chapman November 24th, 2014 02:33 PM

Re: New Sony FS7 4K XDCAM at IBC 2014
 
i've been using a Canon EF 18-35mm Art lens on the FS7 and it is a beautiful combination, no vignetting. There are some iris control issues with both the commlite and metabones adapters with the old firmware, not had a chance to test with the new firmware yet.

Barry J. Weckesser November 24th, 2014 03:58 PM

Re: New Sony FS7 4K XDCAM at IBC 2014
 
Alister - I have tried to look up "Canon 18-35mm Art Lens" and I keep getting redirected to the Sigma 18-35mm f 1.8 for Canon - are they one and the same? I have seen a report where the Sony LAEA4 adaptor works with this lens (Sigma) and allows for proper iris control.

Dylan Couper November 24th, 2014 05:59 PM

Re: New Sony FS7 4K XDCAM at IBC 2014
 
Barry, Art is the series for the 18-35 lens. Think of it like "L" for Canon. But yes, same lens unless they've changed something.

Dylan Couper November 24th, 2014 06:22 PM

Re: New Sony FS7 4K XDCAM at IBC 2014
 
Anyone know what the minimum XQD card speed needed for the FS7 is offhand? Can't find any exact answer. I imagine the Sony 180 MB/s cards are plenty, just wondering if the slightly slower/older ones work in a pinch.

Monday Isa November 24th, 2014 10:00 PM

Re: New Sony FS7 4K XDCAM at IBC 2014
 
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Originally Posted by Dylan Couper (Post 1868758)
Anyone know what the minimum XQD card speed needed for the FS7 is offhand? Can't find any exact answer. I imagine the Sony 180 MB/s cards are plenty, just wondering if the slightly slower/older ones work in a pinch.

Using N cards here. XAVC-L records up to 120p no problem. In Intra can only record 1080 1-48p and 4k 24P on N cards

Brian Rhodes November 25th, 2014 07:27 AM

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I down loaded this XQD chart form Sony Recording times etc.

Dylan Couper November 25th, 2014 05:28 PM

Re: New Sony FS7 4K XDCAM at IBC 2014
 
Thanks Monday.
Great chart, thanks Brian!

Michael Stevenson November 25th, 2014 06:11 PM

Re: New Sony FS7 4K XDCAM at IBC 2014
 
B & H Photo has just informed me that my pre-ordered FS7 has shipped! It should be here by 12/01/2014

Steve Kimmel November 25th, 2014 06:42 PM

Re: New Sony FS7 4K XDCAM at IBC 2014
 
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Originally Posted by Michael Stevenson (Post 1868863)
B & H Photo has just informed me that me pre-ordered FS7 has shipped! It should be here by 12/01/2014

Very cool! When did you order it?

Michael Stevenson November 25th, 2014 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Kimmel (Post 1868865)
Very cool! When did you order it?

Wed 9/17/14 12:14 PM. Yahoo!

Steve Kimmel November 25th, 2014 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Stevenson (Post 1868870)
Wed 9/17/14 12:14 PM. Yahoo!

Great! Congratulations again!

Barry J. Weckesser November 28th, 2014 09:26 AM

Re: New Sony FS7 4K XDCAM at IBC 2014
 
Of the new FS7 owners - can you tell me what size microphones fit in the microphone holder (without additional spacers) - I have an AT stereo shotgun - 21 mm in diameter. Thanks

Dylan Couper November 28th, 2014 11:36 AM

Re: New Sony FS7 4K XDCAM at IBC 2014
 
I just realized, I've hit a point where I'm completely indifferent to cameras - My FS7 has been sitting in cardboard in front of me since Wednesday and I haven't bothered opening it yet.

I'll crack it open and measure that mic for you after I get a coffee.

J. David Pope November 28th, 2014 11:51 AM

Re: New Sony FS7 4K XDCAM at IBC 2014
 
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Originally Posted by Barry J. Weckesser (Post 1868747)
Alister - I have tried to look up "Canon 18-35mm Art Lens" and I keep getting redirected to the Sigma 18-35mm f 1.8 for Canon - are they one and the same? I have seen a report where the Sony LAEA4 adaptor works with this lens (Sigma) and allows for proper iris control.

To my knowledge there is no such thing as a "Canon 18-35 Art Lens". It's the Sigma version, and the Sigma version only, that is labeled "art lens".

One thing I have noticed is that the Sony A-mount is also referred to as "Alpha mount" and the Sony E-mount is also referred to as "NEX mount". Where it gets confusing is that E-mount lenses are also referred to as "Alpha lens".

I take it that there are "Alpha" lenses that are A-mount and there are "Alpha" lenses that are E-mount. ( anyone have any idea what "FE" stands for as used in reference to Sony's new line of glass? )

I am considering the rehoused version of the Sigma 18-35 for Nikon since that version has an iris ring on the lens. In theory this lens should work with the Fs7 with a simple Nikon G to non-electronic E-mount adapter. I am curious what the result would be if you used the Sigma 18-35 Nikon version that has an iris ring on the lens in conjunction with a Nikon to E-mount adapter such as the Novoflex adapter that has iris control on the adapter. The result would be iris control on the lens AND on the adapter. What happens if you move the two controls at the same time??

The Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 DC HSM Lens for Nikon does NOT have an iris on the lens. Somehow the folks who rehouse the lens add an iris ring to the lens.

Anyone know the extent to which the Sigma 18-35 has the same "fly by wire" feel that the Sony lenses have? Or is the focus action better, more mechanical feeling? Does any version of the Sigma 18-35 have focus end stop? Is any version of the lens truly par focal?

I suspect that every form of the Sigma 18-35 suffers from the same lens flare that the Canon 16-35 EF suffers from. I frequently find myself having to try to use my hand to block extraneous light and there have been instances where I was screwed because I could not adjust focus and shade the lens at the same time.

In the end the Sigma is a still photography lens and it will never perform as well as cinema glass or even a B4 "broadcast tv" zoom. Same with all these "Alpha" lenses from Sony. I don't consider them to be truly professional video lenses and I hate the fact as a result of budget constraints I have to use any of them at all. That said, countless "professionals" are using these still photo lenses for professional video productions. I'm shooting a reality tv show tomorrow that is being shot on C300's with Canon EF glass.

My goal is to ultimately acquire something like the Angenieux DP Rouge zoom and an assortment of cinema primes such as the Schneiders or Cookes. In the meantime it's this unfortunate world of still photo zooms that are not par focal, that flare, that don't have focus end stop, that have short focus throw, and having to control exposure via lens adapter or camera-driven control.

Ken Hull November 28th, 2014 12:06 PM

Re: New Sony FS7 4K XDCAM at IBC 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan Couper (Post 1869123)
I just realized, I've hit a point where I'm completely indifferent to cameras - . . . . . I'll crack it open and measure that mic for you after I get a coffee.

Well, at least you're not indifferent to coffee! ;-)


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