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Nigel Davey April 18th, 2016 11:17 AM

Re: FS5 - v2.0 update rumour
 
And as mentioned further up, this auto ND update will provide practical dumb lens (no electronics) AE outside where we didn't have it before. Great news for someone like me with Nikon glass and no way, until now, to acquire AE outside on the FS5. Inside I will reluctantly use auto ISO.

Noa Put April 18th, 2016 11:19 AM

Re: FS5 - v2.0 update rumour
 
I shot my last wedding with a fixed f-stop of f2.8 all day on my jvc in fast changing light conditions as well and during run and gun I let the camera handle the iso, the only thing I needed to do was to select a right ND and compensate exposure with the EV linked to the iris dial. The only thing the fs5 does extra is that the ND is automated as well which will allow locking the ISO but nothing that will influence the image quality, if you need to use the ND the iso will be in the lowest regions anyway. I don't see this as a big step forward, it just is more convenient to use because it's one less step you need to deal with yourself. That is at least from how I understand this automatic ND works on the fs5. Then it still remains to be seen how fluid the ND changes are.

Noa Put April 18th, 2016 11:30 AM

Re: FS5 - v2.0 update rumour
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Davey (Post 1912913)
And as mentioned further up, this auto ND update will provide practical dumb lens (no electronics) AE outside where we didn't have it before. Great news for someone like me with Nikon glass and no way, until now, to acquire AE outside on the FS5. Inside I will reluctantly use auto ISO.

If you shoot with a "dumb" lens and let the camera handle the ND automatically, is there a way to adjust exposure if you want to shoot at a fixed f-stop but if your camera under- or overexposes?

Nigel Davey April 18th, 2016 11:38 AM

Re: FS5 - v2.0 update rumour
 
I guess it comes down to what you feel is acceptable. I have always considered ISO/db gain as the last resort and find it significantly impacts grading, particularly on poorer codecs.

I suspect the auto ND will be quite smooth. I already use the FS5's variable ND on the fly for outdoor shooting and I can't notice the difference over auto iris.

Nigel Davey April 18th, 2016 11:46 AM

Re: FS5 - v2.0 update rumour
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Noa Put (Post 1912916)
If you shoot with a "dumb" lens and let the camera handle the ND automatically, is there a way to adjust exposure if you want to shoot at a fixed f-stop but if your camera under- or overexposes?

Generally speaking auto ISO on the FS5 is your best bet to get any form of AE on a dumb lens, other than auto shutter, which I wouldn't use for obvious reasons.

However AE shift can be used to adjust under/over exposure as long as either of the above are in auto. I assume auto ND will also be part of the AE shift equation. Sadly you can't give preference to where the AE shift compensation comes from at present unless you limit it to just one thing in auto.

Noa Put April 18th, 2016 12:09 PM

Re: FS5 - v2.0 update rumour
 
It should be possible since my jvc can do that, might be just a firmware update to assign the ev to a dial.

Glen Vandermolen April 18th, 2016 12:37 PM

Re: FS5 - V2.0 and V2.1 Details
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Wilkinson (Post 1912875)
Here are some details about what Sony announced yesterday for the FS5.
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Now I know why they put an XDCAM logo on the side of my FS5 ...but I don't think I'll be paying for that option! My PMW-300 also got a minor firmware update announced too.


I just sold my PMW-300. I really like XDCAM being available for my FS5. It's still a much requested codec from many of my broadcast clients.
They don't care for 4K at all.


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