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Steven Davis January 8th, 2008 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Charles Papert (Post 804726)
Depending on the particular model of Bogen quick release you own, something like this should set you up without having to go to a machinist. Not all of their plates have corresponding dovetail receivers, hopefully yours will.


Yeah Charles, I have that, one of the issues with it is the turning of the lock knob. sitting that between a camera and the camera mount for the stablizer isn't going to allow the knob to turn. So I need to get some space between the two.

Charles Papert January 8th, 2008 10:23 AM

Ah, got it!

That should be an extremely inexpensive plate to have made, and if you wanted to avoid even that, you could replace the knob with a hex head screw (which would require a tool every time you changed from sticks to Steadicam), or try using fender washers between the quick release and your dovetail plate. While this will make the connection a bit vulnerable to vibration as you are effectively reducing the surface area between the two plates, you can wedge in a bunch of additional washers around the sides (held in with tape as needed) to provide additional support. Not all that sexy, but certainly inexpensive as they can be found at most hardware stores.

Don Bloom January 8th, 2008 10:25 AM

Steven
How about a small hex wrench and readjust the position of the locking lever. I had to do that when I set my QR577 on my DVMultiRig.
I don't remember the size but it's small.

Otherwise the QR plate might kind of be hanging up in space.

Don

Steven Davis January 8th, 2008 10:39 AM

The Hex wrench sound's inexpensive, and after the price of the pilot, that's music to my ears. I'll have to operate on my fig rig (which has the plate and such) and see how that goes.

Steven Davis January 8th, 2008 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ted Spencer (Post 803179)
I found the Pilot's instructions to be a bit lacking too. It makes no mention of:.

Hey Ted, what cable are you using to connect your camera video out to the pilot's video on on the camera mount? I called BH and they told me to use my Z1's component out, but this leaves me with two dangling unused wires.

Ted Spencer January 8th, 2008 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven Davis (Post 804857)
Hey Ted, what cable are you using to connect your camera video out to the pilot's video on on the camera mount? I called BH and they told me to use my Z1's component out, but this leaves me with two dangling unused wires.

And a picture that's all red, blue or green, I imagine!

Component is hi-def only and always requires all three cables, so you can't use it with the Pilot's SD monitor. Does the Z1 have a composite output (usually a yellow RCA jack)? That should do the trick.

The HVX200 has one that runs all the time, even when you're shooting HD. So I connected the black RCA cable that came with the Pilot between the camera's composite output and the Pilot stage's input. It's not hi-def of course, but it works fine.

Mikko Wilson January 9th, 2008 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ted Spencer (Post 805165)
And a picture that's all red, blue or green, I imagine!

Component is hi-def only and always requires all three cables, so you can't use it with the Pilot's SD monitor. Does the Z1 have a composite output (usually a yellow RCA jack)? That should do the trick.

The HVX200 has one that runs all the time, even when you're shooting HD. So I connected the black RCA cable that came with the Pilot between the camera's composite output and the Pilot stage's input. It's not hi-def of course, but it works fine.

Using a single compoenent signal into a composite input would be a B&W image .. the "Y" channel would give you a clean usable B&W picture, the "Cb" or "Cr" channels would give yous something rather unusable. - But the signals themselves are all B&W, only when you combine them in the right way, do you actually get any color.

Component can be SD or HD - depending on the source. For example BETACAM-SP (been around for YEARS as *the* de-facto standard for SD TV production) is an analog compoenent format. Most (all?) of these smaller cameras can output either HD or SD compoenent when in HD mode (and SD compoenent only when in SD mode). In fact, in general it's very rare to find a device that is HD compoenent only and can't be switched to SD compoenent.

The Z1 uses a 4-conductor 3.5mm jack for Composite Video & Stereo Audio output. You need a special cable that comes with the camera that gives you the RCA output (and this will in deed leave you with the audio connectors hanging loose). Note that the composite output isn't active when the component output is in use. - This is also the case for the HVX200 - the Composite output is disabled as soon as you connect a cable to the compoenent output.

- Mikko

Steven Davis January 9th, 2008 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikko Wilson (Post 805297)
Using a single compoenent signal into a composite input would be a B&W image .. the "Y" channel would give you a clean usable B&W picture, the "Cb" or "Cr" channels would give yous something rather unusable. - But the signals themselves are all B&W, only when you combine them in the right way, do you actually get any color.
- Mikko

Mikko, then is it worth my while to get a cable that will patch the output of my component Y, Cb, Cr back into one RCA cable to get the three combined? Or should I just use composite? Thanks for the time. I'm referencing page 52 of the Z1u manual.

Ted Spencer January 9th, 2008 09:15 AM

Man...you get corrected fast around here : )

Thanks for the info.

Mikko Wilson January 9th, 2008 12:49 PM

No hard feelings I hope Ted. :-)


Steven; no combibing the components into a composite signal requires active processing, it's a bit more than just adapting the wires together.
Just use the composite output.

- Mikko

Steven Davis January 9th, 2008 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikko Wilson (Post 805576)
No hard feelings I hope Ted. :-)


Steven; no combibing the components into a composite signal requires active processing, it's a bit more than just adapting the wires together.
Just use the composite output.

- Mikko


Thanks Mikko...............as a side note, the dude at steadicam was a little surprised, or acted so, that the Z1 was outputting like it was. Who knows........ But thanks again.

Ted Spencer January 9th, 2008 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikko Wilson (Post 805576)
No hard feelings I hope Ted. :-)
- Mikko

Not in the slightest. I appreciate the addition to the ol' knowledge base!

In a larger sense your input regarding the Steadicam in general has been absolutely invaluable, and I thank you once again.

Ted


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