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Arthur To December 25th, 2004 11:20 PM

Check out my home made stabilizer!!! =)
 
hey i built it and used it to shoot my music video. tell me what you think of the shot!

http://www.ifilm.com/promo/yellowcard/submissions.jsp

go about 2/3rds down to "Arthur To" and watch my video. and if you like, can you cast a vote for me? PLEEEEEEEEEASE? i'd REALLY REALLY appreciate it very much.

if u feel bad about pity-voting me then compare my video with some others. but i am so desperate to win this competition

also any comments and critques about my video and/or the steadycam shot with my homebuilt would also be highly appreciated!

=)
-arthur

Terry Thompson December 27th, 2004 01:04 AM

saw and voted
 
I did watch your video and thought it was good. I watched about 8 other videos and yours was the best of them so I gave you my vote. I didn't have the time to watch them all of the entries nor could I take that much of the same song.

I thought the idea was good to have a song and let others promote it. I will only cost the band 5K so that's not too bad.

Now for the steadycam video...fairly smooth and applicable. I wish other's video had some steadycam shots in them as much of the stuff was too jumpy. I do realize the nature of the song suggests that but I personally don't care for it.

I did like the plot that you employed in your video. I thought it was very clever.

Terry

Arthur To December 27th, 2004 01:14 AM

wow
 
hey thanks a bunch! =)

i really appreciate the vote and the comments. helps me expand my thinking, yea i really wished i had more steadicam shots. they're so cool

-arthur

Dan Selakovich December 27th, 2004 10:49 AM

Well done! Tell that drummer that he's freakin' amazing. The stabilizer shot down the hallway was a bit "Pendulum" like. Use 2 hands when operating!

Dan
www.DVcameraRigs.com

Arthur To December 27th, 2004 11:34 AM

=)
 
wow thanks for the great tips and comments guys.

yea, my camera guys first swing at a steadicam. i wish we somehow could train.

thanks a grip =)

-arthur

Dennis Vogel January 14th, 2005 10:50 AM

Got any pictures of your stabilizer?

Good luck.

Dennis

Arthur To January 14th, 2005 04:25 PM

trhanks
 
thanks, yea i do

here it is

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3856242519

-arthur

if anyone wants a new one

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3319&item=3867149472&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Richard Lewis January 17th, 2005 01:39 PM

I can see straight why you are experiencing problems with stability.

1.) You seem to be holding the base of the Glidecam 400 post while operating, instead of very gently pinching the section just beneath the gimbal when needing to adjusting your shot.

2.) You have the Glidecam set up incorrectly, with the base of the sled angled at the wrong position.

I’m sure if you adjust these above observations, you will produce a much smoother shot.

Arthur To January 17th, 2005 02:50 PM

oh
 
ooooooh awesome! ill go test it out when i get the chance

thanks a bunch! =)

Terry Thompson January 17th, 2005 09:15 PM

steadycam (generic) pendulum probs
 
Note: I use the term steadycam (not Steadicam) to refer to any stabilizer that copies the famous Steadicam created by Garret Brown. Just like we use the term "velcro" instead of "hook and loop" which is it's real name. Velcro is a brand name of a "hook and loop" manufacturer. With that said...

=====================================

Dan said "The stabilizer shot down the hallway was a bit "Pendulum" like. Use 2 hands when operating!"

Dan is correct providing you have the Glidecam set up correctly and use your control hand just under the gimbal (as explained by Richard) and don't use it very much. Not only is the base "supposed" to be pointing front to back in order to balance the rig better but also the balance needs to have a 2 - 2.5 (some say 3) drop time.

For those who are reading this and don't know what "drop time" means...while holding the rig parallel to the ground, allow it to swing down making an arc (like a pendulum on a clock) and count the time between letting it go and when it swings past the vertical position. The longer the drop time, the less the rig will pendulum while operating with starts, stops and turns.

The biggest problem with a longer drop time (2.5 - 3 seconds) is that it takes a lot of time to get the rig that well balanced fore and aft as well as side to side. The Glidecam doesn't allow real fine adjustments very easily whereas a full sized Steadicam or MK-V (and others) has fine tuning. It will just take longer to achieve a fine balance.

Gee, I wish Charles Papert were here explaining this but he's probably already done it in many other posts. I hear he will be making (or already is making) a training tape to help all of us to become much better steadycam operators.

Terry

Arthur To January 17th, 2005 10:11 PM

ooh
 
intereseting, i will definetely try the setup

thank you!

-arthur

Richard Lewis January 19th, 2005 02:17 PM

No disrespect by this comment, but I can’t believe that people are spending $660.00 on a homebuilt arm and vest that is supposed to improve stability, and is built by a person that can't even set up the equipment properly, or understand the basics of operating.
I know that everyone needs to learn somewhere, but I can't but think that you are taking advantage of people. But guess it’s their own fault if people buy it.

Plus then you give us a link to the site where you’re selling them!

"if anyone wants a new one

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3319&item=3867149472&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW"


I had a look at the video, and I can’t see any improvement from regular handheld use of the GC400.

Again, no disrespect, (although it may have seemed so) I just had to get it off my chest.

All the best,

Arthur To January 19th, 2005 02:27 PM

understood
 
i understand, none taken, i'd probably say the same if it were true.

i dont build them, my dads friend knows all about this stuff and he does it but he already makes a ton making other stuff, so he wanted to help me out- esp cuz he knows i like to film.

so.... yea im learning im improving, im no good at setups and stuff, but its built by a guy who has alot of experience in this area.

i am not taking advantage of people, the rig is for reals..... me as the operator..... bleh, thank goodness i dont come with the package. anyways, 660 is also the lowest of the sales so far - and i've gotten great reviews from the people in the past who bid over 800-

thanks for your input though!

-arthur

Richard Lewis January 19th, 2005 02:38 PM

Over £800 for that!!

It looks like it cost about £50 to make!! If that's not taking advantage, I don't know what is.

Again, no disrespect.

Arthur To January 19th, 2005 03:06 PM

i agree
 
well many have reported back to me that it was very worth it, and that their shots were everything they wanted.

that statement sounds like the 800 dollars was worth it, you might know if you used it.


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