<<<-- Originally posted by Cody Deegan :
To conclude here, I'm going to be manipulative and say if anyone needs to email me, you can get the address on my personal website, which you can find a link to in my profile. (This way I force people into browsing my unknown webspace - a showcase for my work....tee hee...)

Cody -->>>

Well Cody, it's not completely unknown. I have been there and looked at all of the videos. Heck, I 'almost' feel like I know the whole Deegan family. :-)

My favorite clip is the one at the log cabin with the green grass with the pass by the weedeater(love the audio). I really felt like I had been carried away to a serene place while watching that clip. Good stablizer work and good sound bites.

Thanks for finally coming over here. There are a lot of good people on this site and we're more than happy to have you become one of them.

regards,

-gb-

Thanks Greg, that was a nice reponse from you. I have to point out though that the homepage in my profile is not my Stabilizer Plans website - it is my personal website that shows off my artistic and filmmaking work. But thanks for the comments on my clips and welcoming me aboard.

Oh, and really folks - there's no need to put my name on anything. I'm not a glory-seeker. But thanks.



Cody

I'd definitely be interested in a set of machined parts, but as I have the book I'd love to put it together myself. Obviously as inexpensive yet decent quality is important.

Group Buy
 

Let me know, I could be interested if you'd be interested in shipping to Australia and the price was right. I also have purchased the Cody's book/plans last year.

By crikey, it's Hackett!

Long time, mate! Since August, anyway.

Are you coming up here for NAB and/or WEVA again?

Tilting?
 

<<<-- Originally posted by Cody Deegan : it is my personal website that shows off my artistic and filmmaking work. -->>>

I must have missed it but I could not find any video on your site in which your unit tilts the camcorder up and down. Do you have any footage demonstrating your stabilizer panning and tilting simultaneously?

G'day Chris,

How are ya mate? Not able to make NAB just too busy, hope to make WEVA in August.

Wondering if you'd find my post, what's new in your neck of the woods?

Will have to arrange to meet earlier in the week this time if I get to Expo, could have the Mrs with me this time too.

Won't hijack the thread any more but will email you hopefully tomorrow.

Cheers..Paul.

Looking forward to yer email Paul -- see ya in Vegas one way or another!

We now return to our regularly scheduled program.

<<<-- Originally posted by Matt Gettemeier : I've read a few threads about home-built stabilizers constructed with Cody's plans... and from what I can tell... it 'aint for the faint of heart. A lot of people take 6 months or more to get one done. I'd be really surprised if this one-time deal hurt Cody's sales much... if at all. I've known about Cody's book for a while... and I've wanted to buy it... but the challenging process of actually building this thing has kept it on the back burner for me. If everybody got in on Armando's deal AND bought the book as a royalty... that would be more then fair.

Armando... I'll be in LA in 3 weeks. If you think it would behoove me to stop by... and you're somewhere in the LAX-Hollywood area... I'll drop in.

If you can put together a decent steadicam for under $1K I will DEFINITELY be onboard.

As a guy who is constantly trying to do nice DIY stuff I think it's incredibly generous to extend the favor of your business and connections to the DVinfo members. I'm always torn on whether or not to give away details of my work and R&D money...

I will say one thing though... you don't have hardly any posts and you've come on talking about a group buy of $1K from each member that signs up... LOL... I'll fly back out when they're done and pick mine up in person... -->>>


I am located about 30min away from LAX so if you want to stop by the warehouse let me know. You can E-mail me at wicked4u2c@aol.com I will give you my phone number. As far as having minimal post's that is understandable. Keep in mind my Internet Reputation is HUGE and I can clearly show creditability to insure a safe and easy going transaction. As far as picking it up in person, I have NO PROBLEM with that, but also keep in mind I will need a deposit to get the order going, the last thing I need is having 20 stabilizers and having everyone back out at the last minute. I am a business man, and a verbal purchase order is a BIG NO NO.

You mentioned people spent 6 months building, well I can gurantee that I will have mine done by the end of April. (4 weeks). I am just waiting for the plans to arrive, once they get here expect a 4-5 days to get a solid quotation and I will begin the pre-orders.

To check my credit, HAHA visit these sites and you can ask questions about me and my creditability.

www.clubsi.com

www.my350z.com

www.honda-tech.com

My screen Names on those forums are Wicked4u2c

And those who want to meet me in person or come by the warehouse, I have no problem with that. Well, hopefully we will know something soon (waiting for plans)

In response to the question about tilts, I do have a video posted that was shot more freestyle with my rig using all axes:

www.codydeegan.com/demos/tilts.mov




Cody

Quite a soundtrack
 

Thanks.

How long does it take to set up the entire rig, from unpacking to shooting?

That particular rig used to take me about 15 minutes to set up properly.

Be aware that it takes a full understanding of the sled and a lot of practice before speed is achieved in setting it up.

Cody

Well, my friend is done giving me a time quote. I gave him both books, the regular cody designs stabilzer build and the one with the upgraded arm. Basically he calculated the time it would take to make one of these things in its aprox 120 Hours. Its not as easy as it looks, it is VERY intensive work and would take aprox 1 month to have a few manufactured. That's not even adding the cost of materials, he told me that if someone came up to him and had him do this he would charge at least a min of $2,500 per piece. Im still waiting for the price quote, as he is waiting for a few more parts of material to get pricing on. But yes, this is VERY labor intesive work, I can't imagine anyone doing this on their own spare time. I can see why people spend 6 months to 1 year to complete this project. Again, this is also using CODY's latest arm design. Looking at the way he was talking and telling me things I highly doubt this will cost under 1K like stated in the main page. I received that quote from him when he saw the unit visually on CODY's website, but after seeing all the work that needed to be done its not looking so good. Anyhow, I will know the answer by tonight or tomorrow morning. If I were to take a guess on how much this will cost I would say $1,500 at least... Regardless if anybody still wants in I will keep you guys posted on the progress of mine. Shoot, I already spent $80.00 on both books im not backing out now.

Installment payments
 

With the price that high and the build time that long, will you be taking deposits and then intermediate and final payments?

Armando, if it is $1500 then count me in.

Re: Installment payments
 

<<<-- Originally posted by David Yuen : With the price that high and the build time that long, will you be taking deposits and then intermediate and final payments? -->>>

Yes, again IM trying to finalize the price but waiting on 2 material prices to get everything squared away. The more people the better of course because the 120hours will be divided by X amount of units built. As far as a deposit goes, I think a small amount of $100.00 is fine and than the remaining balance when the unit is built. And you can pay in person the remaining balance(actually preferred by me, that way I don't have to ship it) I will be taking pictures soon of the factory that will be building these units so you guys can see what machines will be used, materials and what not.

<<<-- Originally posted by Roger Moore : Armando, if it is $1500 then count me in. -->>>

Cool, I already have 4 people interested including yourself on this so this will help keep the cost down. I think 5-10 units will be a fair amount and we should get good prices. But believe me, its A LOT OF WORK! And those who have actually done one of these things can testify it isn't "a walk in the park".

Re: Re: Installment payments
 

<<<-- Originally posted by Armando Ferreira :
Yes, again IM trying to finalize the price but waiting on 2 material prices to get everything squared away. The more people the better of course because the 120hours will be divided by X amount of units built. As far as a deposit goes, I think a small amount of $100.00 is fine and than the remaining balance when the unit is built. And you can pay in person the remaining balance(actually preferred by me, that way I don't have to ship it) I will be taking pictures soon of the factory that will be building these units so you guys can see what machines will be used, materials and what not. -->>>

I am interested but I can't let it go far beyond $1500. Regrettably, I won't be able to pay or pickup in person as I am on the other side of the continent.

Re: Re: Re: Installment payments
 

<<<---I am interested but I can't let it go far beyond $1500. Regrettably, I won't be able to pay or pickup in person as I am on the other side of the continent. -->>>

That's another thing I have to factor in also is shipping, i need to find out weight of the unit, at this point Im thinking I don't want to ship out of the country... It might be to much of a hassle.

Count me in Armando
 

How far are you from Huntington Beach?

When and how would you like the $100 deposit?

Thanks,
Mel

Re: Count me in Armando
 

<<<-- Originally posted by Mel Williams : How far are you from Huntington Beach?

When and how would you like the $100 deposit?

Thanks,
Mel -->>>

Crazy, your about 5-10 minutes away. The warehouse is in Fountain Valley off the 405 and Euclid. However you want to do the deposit.

Wow...any closer and you'd be in my house!
 

I work at Jamboree and the 405.

I pass Euclid on the way home from work.

What's your phone number at the warehouse? I'll drop by after work sometime. I usually get off work pretty late (7-8pm). If you're at the warehouse late one day, I'll drop off the deposit.

thanks,
Mel

Re: Wow...any closer and you'd be in my house!
 

<<<-- Originally posted by Mel Williams : I work at Jamboree and the 405.

I pass Euclid on the way home from work.

What's your phone number at the warehouse? I'll drop by after work sometime. I usually get off work pretty late (7-8pm). If you're at the warehouse late one day, I'll drop off the deposit.

thanks,
Mel -->>>

What's your E-mail Ill give you my CELL Phone.

Unassembled price?
 

To attract more buyers, please see if there is an unassembled price for those who have expressed an interest in putting it together themselves. The price will be lower for them and more buyers lowers the overall cost for everyone.

Good idea David. Armando, I realise the resistance to overseas buyers, but if it's at all possible I'd like to know the cost of shipping etc

Cheers
Aaron

Armando... have you got any solid numbers for us yet?

Cody... if you were to compare your design to an existing steady-cam, which would it be... and I'm also wondering how many years you've been a steady-cam operator (or been practicing)?

<<<-- Originally posted by Matt Gettemeier : Armando... have you got any solid numbers for us yet?

Cody... if you were to compare your design to an existing steady-cam, which would it be... and I'm also wondering how many years you've been a steady-cam operator (or been practicing)? -->>>

The material guy that was supposed to call him back on Friday never did. He will call him tomorrow (Monday) so I will know by Tomorrow. Also, by the consumer putting it together will SAVE money. Puting it together is a WHOLE other project in its own, this will be good because will force people to buy CODY's book and should be fair for everyone. I'll talk to you guys tomorrow.

EXPENSIVE
 

Well, finally got the last quotation on the parts and its going to be WAY expensive for this project. Aside from being a very labor intensive project, this requires a lot of little parts that add to the cost. For example alan screws, you have to buy a box of 50pcs for $16.00 when you only need 4pcs. This adds to the cost of materials and begins to skyrocket in price little by little. Im going to take it to another manufacture, he is not really a personal friend but I have done business with him MANY times and want to get a second opinion. As of now the project is on STANDBY, it needs to be cost effective for this to go through or else we can all just go purchase a $2,000 unit. The whole purpose of this is to reduce cost by at least 50% so we can all benefit. Again, I will keep you guys posted as promised. IT will probably be at least 1 week for me to get another quote from this new manufacture. They might have more of these odd pieces laying around.

Thanks for your patience

No, we thank YOU for doing all that leg work for us.

A very interesting thread! - Definatly a good idea.

Also (not to discount the project, which I see as a good one) this is also working as a good demonstration as to why these things cost so damn much!
Most people scoff at the cost of, say, a Steadicam Ultra ($66,000) -"Oh i could get one built for under $10k I'm sure" - but you can see how quickly all these little things ad up!

- Mikko

The reason I asked Cody which rig he would compare his design to is 'cause I used a Glidecam V16 for a few days and it was okay... but I wasn't compelled to buy one...

I got the impression that after a YEAR or so I may have been able to get what I wanted out of the V16... but it was hard to make a judgement. I suspect that a lot of guys on here think that just buying the steadycam will solve the problem, but it's just like a good mic. It 'aint sh*t unless you use it like a professional.

I'm HOPING that the Cody design is more forgiving then the V16 was...

I'm interested as well if the price is around $1200 and if I had it in my garage no later than August 1, 2005. If this goes through, I'll buy Cody's book as well even though he stated it wasn't necessary.

Kevin

Armando... I know I haven't emailed you yet to swap numbers... but what's the latest scoop? I'll be in your neighborhood in 4 days...

... or is this fun little idea dead?

Sorry, I haven't had a chance to take it to the new manufacture. I will take it this week. Shoot me an E-mail when you get a chance.

I'm going to have to bail out of the potential group buy. I have a friend who is going to build one for me!!! Good luck to you all.

Kevin

Yeah, the thing is that you have to buy that $66,000 to copy or duplicate something like that. And chances are nobody will buy one to replicated it. The profit on that thing must be INSANE!! Heck, all you have to do is just sell one a year. I can't see a system costing more than a vehicle, heck I'll take a FULLY LOAED BMW M3 for that price!

No worries, Im going there tomorrow to drop off the books and start again with the quotation. Hopefully everything goes good! pricing will be available in a few days now probably early next week.

Hi Armando,

Return to the old topic I started, there are patents on ultra package which Tiffen won't let you copy or duplicate for your goodness. I guess that Tiffen has enough resource for that legal purpose.

Anyway, one patent may cost millions of dollar to research and develop. This money spent must be earned back through selling products. There is no such thing as a free lunch. The DVD maybe cost one dollar to manufacture, but <The Lord of the Rings> on the DVD on the shelf of video shop may cost you $77.98.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...s=dvd&n=507846

Regards
Leigh

I want a friend who'll build a Cody rig for ME... all I have is a friend that did a mosaic of me on my garage floor using 1/8" tiles... in full color.

I doubt he'd be willing to go to the trouble to build me a Cody rig though...

HEHE, believe me I have no interest in "copying" their design. And even if they had no patents, I have better things to invest $66K in. But I do understand that R&D cost money.