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Dushan Horvat October 27th, 2003 11:08 PM

Lighting and fast shutter speed
Quick question... I know I can adjust my shutter speed on my DVX100 to 250 and get the same stuttered look like Gladiator/blackhawk down, however, it is so dark, even with alot of lighting and full open iris.
So how can I increase my shutter speed to get that look without having it so dark?

Charles Papert October 27th, 2003 11:56 PM

Boost the gain, or light it even hotter.

John Hudson October 28th, 2003 12:22 PM

Yes, definatley. I recently was playing around with my DVX to attempt to achieve this look and I stumbled across it using 250 shutter. The lighting I was under was very bright and I did notice that.

If you look at some of the shots in SPR they are very well lit; most of them being outside using very bright light.

Dushan Horvat October 28th, 2003 01:31 PM

hehe, I can't light it any hotter...had about 3000watts going and it was still dark. And I can't even boost the gain because I was in 24p mode, unfortunately, the gain doesn't function in that mode. I suppose I could just go video and change the shutter speed there and boost the gain..I'll try that.
I think you are right John, most of the shots are outdoors! Can't get brighter than the sun!
There's got to be a way to do it for creepy zombie indoor scenes. I guess they must be *flooding* the indoor areas with tons of lights.
Any other ideas?

John Hudson October 28th, 2003 04:29 PM

Did you by any chance have the ND on?
Can you open the IRIS more?

Zombie flick, huh? A man after my own heart.

Dushan Horvat October 28th, 2003 08:46 PM

Hmm..just in case, I re-examined and no, no ND and the iris was full open. I have a funny feeling that they only pull off the 250 shutter in broad daylight, but how did they do that in 28 Days later? Alot of it was in the dark, but it had the same strobe effect. Maybe in post? If so, what's the best way to acheive that look in post? Any ideas?

Dushan Horvat October 28th, 2003 08:48 PM

John, when I said zombie flick, I was referencing 28 days later :) Mind you, I would love to film/direct one, but I am so busy filming/directing martial arts sequences for products, I just don't have time. One day though...one day ... :)

Charles Papert October 29th, 2003 12:06 AM

I spoofed the "28 Days Later" look and theme for a festival opening (can be seen here; scroll down to "IF010 Opening"). I did variable amounts of shutter for different shots as needed. This was on an XL1s. I don't remember exactly, but I know I boosted the gain 6db and even more here and there. But this was night exterior--for an interior, I think it should have been possible with 3 1K's going at 0 db.

Dushan Horvat October 29th, 2003 09:07 AM

Very nice Charles!
I am gonna have to experiment I guess and see what works...
Thanks guys :)

John Hudson October 29th, 2003 11:32 AM

Nice Charles.

As far as the effect Dushan;

Just light it hot! Get your subject lighted well and use practicals for the background, splash the lights!

Dushan Horvat October 29th, 2003 07:20 PM

That's what I am gonna do...spash the lights like crazy...stay tuned :)

John Hudson October 30th, 2003 01:57 PM

An observation:

I was watching 28 Days Later last night and the footage we seem to like is all splashes and highlights. Most of the ZOMBIEs are backlit and appear in a silloutte (spell?) form.

So, PRIVATE RYAN is very bright
28 Days is dark with careful use of light.

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