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Rafal Krolik November 2nd, 2003 02:04 PM

Video to Film transfer question
 
I read an article in the recent issue of Movie Maker magazine which states that it is impossible to transfer a video footage to film if the video was shot in 30 fps frame mode. Also it says to keep your shutter no higher than 1/60.
I have a hard time believing that video shot in progressive mode cannot be transfered to film. Can anyone help me understand this one? Thanks in advance.

Frank Granovski November 2nd, 2003 03:14 PM

There's also a film look article which covers what to do with DV ---> film transfers at dv.com - every transfer house has a set of guidelines to go with.

Don Donatello November 2nd, 2003 04:04 PM

"recent issue of Movie Maker magazine which states that it is impossible to transfer a video footage to film if the video was shot in 30 fps frame mode. Also it says to keep your shutter no higher than 1/60. "

based on above the article is WRONG -
for PAL = no problems ..
for NTSC = problems -it does transfer but not very well ... the more motion/movement in progressive/frame mode the worse the artitacts ( look at movie "somebody" shot NTSC frame mode transferred to 35mm - notice when persons isn't moving much it's OK but when persons moves alot artifact all over the edges) ...
frame mode has a rez loss of approx 25-30% over interlace more compared to PROGRESSIVE ...

anything over 1/60 shutter should be used for EFFECT use ( look at "28 days" where they used hi shutter for effect shot on PAL XL in frame mode)

look for a transfer house that may have written speacial software for 30p ... if one can write software to fill ( create new frames based on frame before and frame after) in frames for bullet, matrix type , slo-mo type effects then one can write software to analyze 30p taken down to 24fps ....

Rafal Krolik November 2nd, 2003 10:40 PM

Thanks, I knew there had to be a way since many people out there shoot progressive with cameras such as XL1. Limiting film transfer only to videos done in interlaced mode seemed wrong.

Barry Green November 3rd, 2003 01:24 AM

XL1 projects that are transferred to film are originated on PAL cameras, at 25fps. As of the last time I checked, it is basically impossible to get a quality transfer done from material that originated at 30p.


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