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Imran Zaidi January 16th, 2004 11:04 AM

New Demo Posted on Movietube
 
The Movietube folks just posted a great new demo on what the Light and Pro versions of their new 35mm system will be.

http://www.movietube.com

It looks like the Light version might actually be financially feasible (we can only hope) for most of us, considering how stripped down it is. I can't wait!

Mike Tesh January 16th, 2004 11:24 AM

Cool. If they could only post actually photos now and even just hint at price ranges.

Rob Lohman January 16th, 2004 11:32 AM

I like the shoulder support. Doubt it'll work with an XL1 though.
Price probably gonna be high as well I'd say.

Taylor Moore January 16th, 2004 11:43 AM

Looks Pretty damn sweet.
Yeah, hopefully well see some prices soon to see how out of reach it is...or not.

Filip Kovcin January 16th, 2004 03:25 PM

$$$
 
i am wondering about the costs. normally mini 35 costs 8K and it looks very simple comparing to movietube. i don't think that this will be cheap gear at all. there are too many small parts etc. it looks good, complicated etc. and this is where the extra money is hidden.
it SHOULD be cheaper then mini35, just because it's not the only one and not first on the market, but all these parts... i'm sceptical.
we do not need extra parts. we need simplicity. simplicity is probably cheaper :)

just look at it. do we REALLY need shoulder part - no.
do we REALLY need - extra pro viewfinder - no.
do we REALLY need grips and other arm-stabilizers - no.
do we REALLY need 35mm lens adapter - yes.

so we need (in my "calculation") 1/4th of it...

Imran Zaidi January 16th, 2004 03:27 PM

Filip - in the demo, check out the section that discusses the MOVIEtube LT mode. It's exactly as you described - none of the frills at all. Their plan is to give a cheaper stripped down version that has an upgrade path to the big bad mama jama version.

Rob Lohman January 17th, 2004 06:40 AM

If it works with my XL1S I'd definitely would want the shoulder
and grips part. That would be very nice to have. Would I be
unable to shoot without it, ofcourse not. I agree with the pro
viewfinder though (although if it is B&W and cheaper then the
current offering on the XL1S then it might be interesting as well).

It is a good thing they will offer two different versions indeed.

Also they are claiming it is for digital video. They aren't saying it
is for DV systems. Might be for higher end 2/3" CCD stuff.

Mike Tesh January 17th, 2004 08:36 AM

This is what they said to me when asking about my $2000 price range.

Quote:

the product MOVIEtube Pro will be out of your price range. The MOVIEtube LT is much more cheaper. But we can not quote the exact price in the moment. Sorry!

Thanks again for your interest in the product MOVIEtube.

Kevin Maistros January 17th, 2004 09:34 AM

The MOVIEtube Pro and LT versions are not compatible with the Canon XL-1(s).

MOVIEtube will hit the market summer 2004. At the moment the MOVIEtube 35mm Camera System is approved for the following cameras:

-Sony PD-100
-Sony PD-150
-Sony VX 1000/2000
-Sony TVR Series
-Canon GL2
-Panasonic DVX100

Approved cameras can be docked directly on the MOVIEtube. No additional relay lenses are needed.

The MOVIEtube Pro model is intended for larger budget professional productions, and has common features known to traditional professional film camera. The model is based to work mostly as if it were an Arri film camera.

"To start more cost-conscious with the MOVIEtube product line we are proud to introduce the MOVIEtube LT.
The MOVIEtube LT is a small unit with less features than the MOVIEtube PRO, but providing the same Image as the PRO.
The MOVIEtube LT is running without electronic power, except the Battery on the DV-Camera. Therefore it is lightweight, small and by the fraction of the cost of a MOVIEtube PRO. MOVIEtube LT can be later upgraded to be a full-blown MOVIEtube PRO unit."

Mike Tesh January 17th, 2004 10:07 AM

See to me the most expensive part would seem like the center area itself. What is the LT version. How much more could all the extras really cost? I mean if you were to buy similar products separate for another camera. Aside from the viewfinder which I assume you would have to buy separate anyway even on the pro version. At least that's how they word it.

"Viewfinder out (for Sony compatible professional viewfinder)"

James Ball January 17th, 2004 03:38 PM

CCD chip in the head.
 
This thing must have a CCD with part of the light split off to hit it.

I'm saying this because it has a viewer like on a professional ENG camera.

This would allow for separate focusing of the 35mm element from your camera, I'm guessing.

It also has a mount for a microphone.

Forget anything else, you're already at $1000

Filip Kovcin January 17th, 2004 05:17 PM

to imran
 
<<<-- Originally posted by Imran Zaidi : [...] check out the section that discusses the MOVIEtube LT mode. [...] Their plan is to give a cheaper stripped down version [...]-->>>

ok. you are right, so now we should run our "wait and see" program... :)

or maybe to construct our own "agustube35pro" versions :)))

Charles Papert January 17th, 2004 10:33 PM

Re: CCD chip in the head.
 
<<<-- Originally posted by James Ball : This thing must have a CCD with part of the light split off to hit it.

I'm saying this because it has a viewer like on a professional ENG camera.

This would allow for separate focusing of the 35mm element from your camera, I'm guessing.
>>>

Mmmm...no, I don't think that is the case. It looks like it accomodates a mount and a video/power port for an existing Sony broadcast viewfinder as Mike Tesh pointed out. This wouldn't involve a separate pickup or beam splitter.

Langston Sessoms January 18th, 2004 01:59 PM

i'm a little lost. besides being able to shoulder mount any dv camcorder, what's the advantage of this?

Filip Kovcin January 18th, 2004 02:09 PM

he, he... read carefully... :)


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