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Heath McKnight March 12th, 2005 08:26 AM

<<palm beaches>>

Only in my area of Palm Beach County! <g>

heath

Cleveland Brown March 12th, 2005 09:07 AM

We have palm beaches both on the east and west coasts, However if you look at where St. Louis is, you can see that the nearest beach is about 900 miles (roughly 1500 kilometers) away from me. So I am not making any movies about the beach until I can sell one that affords me a beach house.

So what I am doing currently is writting a script for a film I think would be better shot at this time next year when all the trees have that creepy scary dead look to them. In a few weeks they'll all look different so I'll have to wait a whole year maybe I could do it in Decamber and January but it will be about -20C for at least a few days that time of year. I don't think any sane person would want to help me work in those conditions. Especially not Heath down in Palm Beach.

Jon Fordham March 12th, 2005 10:19 AM

Yeah, Heath NEVER misses the opportunity to tell me how warm it is whenever I'm trudging through the snow on my way to a shoot. Or worst, shooting outside in winter (rare, but it does happen)!

With the exception of maybe LA, I think every area has thier season to shoot. Florida is just too damn hot to shoot anything during the middle of the summer if you have EXT's. NY is too damn cold to shoot EXT's during the winter.

Rob, I'm not super geo-educated. But I think LA is really the only US city that has every single locale you can imagine within four hours or less by car. Of course, getting out of LA in less than four hours is another story. So if you factor traffic, I guess those locales are just as far away as they are from everybody else! :)

Heath McKnight March 12th, 2005 11:04 AM

Australia and New Zealand is like L.A. in that you have beaches, mountains, etc.

Cleveland, my family lives in St. Louis and I've ALWAYS wanted to shoot a horror film or two there in the month of October. The rest of my family (and where I'm from) is in Denver, Colorado. Which is C-O-L-D.

heath

Michael Wisniewski March 12th, 2005 02:26 PM

The San Francisco Bay Area has an amazingly varied landscape all within 4 hours or less. Everything from snow covered mountains down to beaches and everything in between.

FYI: if you want a beach and palm trees, just take the Treasure Island exit on the Bay Bridge - 5 minutes out of the city.

I agree with everything Jon said about NYC and I also call it home, but the SF Bay Area has a beautiful landscape.

Jon Fordham March 12th, 2005 03:23 PM

Michael,

I was able to secure a DVD of Blackwater Elegy for you if you're still interested in seeing it.

Wait a minute... wrong thread. D'oh.

Ummmm, shot on location in Lakeland, FL... Uhhh, so check out Central Florida's scene!

Sorry Mr. Hurd.

Michael Wisniewski March 12th, 2005 05:12 PM

Heh, heh check your email.

Advil Dremali March 15th, 2005 07:25 PM

Well I live in Urbandale Iowa (suburb of des moines) and i just moved here in January. This seems like a VERY nice place for a filmmaker. Not too many people to get in your way and bother you during shoots, you can easily find a place and be alone for your shoots, and if you want a more populated area, Des moines is a 5 minute drive away.

Of course Des Moines isn't anything compared to NY or LA. But it's a city and I'm sure you can get some nice shots there.

I lived in Boca Raton, Florida before. And I'll say this much, that place is perfect for ANYTHING.

Brian Standing March 24th, 2005 03:02 PM

Minneapolis-St. Paul. Good community, lots of talented crew members, reasonable cost of living, lots of venues for indy film, good funding base.

Luis Caffesse March 24th, 2005 03:16 PM

Whatever you do, stay away from Austin....
there are too many of us here already.
:)

Robert Kirkpatrick April 26th, 2005 10:54 AM

Also, when investigating the city, see what equipment rental houses there are. I live in Little Rock, AR, and there's nothing. No lights, no cameras, nothing. There are professional production houses, but they don't rent out equipment. I have to buy any equipment I use, which makes filmmaking difficult, because most of my budget is eaten by gear. I would rather rent at the fraction of the price, and get the best look and feel.

Heath McKnight April 26th, 2005 11:07 AM

Good point!

heath

Joe Carney April 27th, 2005 02:16 PM

Boca was pretty nice. Glad I left Little Rock a long time ago though I've heard Eureka Springs has become quite the artist center. Arlington VA /DC area has a lot to offer, talent, rentals, post houses, beautiful countryside..
I'm about to find out what Germany has pretty soon.

Just hoping the JVC HD100E is about the same price as the US version.

Kevin Wild April 27th, 2005 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luis Caffesse
Whatever you do, stay away from Austin....
there are too many of us here already.
:)


Very funny...but not really. I spent 2 years in Austin and I did get that feeling from some people. I've never had so many unreturned calls/emails. Austin definitely has a little of that "we don't want everyone to move here" attitude. (Before I started visiting these boards, I think there were even some unreturned emails from some San Marcos guys...but I'm forgiving.)

Austin is a great city and has a hugely vibrant filmmaking community. I joke that everyone I met had a guitar in one hand and an XL1 in the other. There are a ton of groups there Reel Women, Digital Filmmaking Resource Group (which I founded w a partner), Austin Film Festival, SxSW, etc. Several good places to take classes including Austin Filmworks and Michael Morlan. Several websites including one I still have there: www.austinfilmmaker.com (I haven't promoted it much, so it's a little bare these days.)

So, yeah, make films anywhere, but the place in which you settle can definitely keep you motivated and inspired by it's support, people and resources. Places where a lot of indy films happen are great training grounds, so you have a better chance of getting talented actors and crew when you're ready to shoot your film. Getting experience people around you when you are taking on a new challenge is HUGE and very helpful.

Ultimately, Austin is a great place to do indy filmmaking...now, don't bother asking about how to make money doing it. The downside to having a huge group of broke people walking around with cameras...(I imagine L.A. is 100x worse and that is scary.)

Kevin

Luis Caffesse April 27th, 2005 10:45 PM

Austin definitely has a little of that "we don't want everyone to move here" attitude.

A friend of mine always says that everyone wants to be the last one to move to Austin. Very true.

Although, I was obviously being sarcastic when I said no one should move here.
There is a HUGE population of people who will tell you they want to make films, there are very few who are actually working on making films.

Anyone who is willing to bust their hump and do what it takes to get something on the screen is always welcome ... and there are never enough of those people around.

Getting experience people around you when you are taking on a new challenge is HUGE and very helpful.

Reminds me of something else a friend of mine once told me, "the easiest way to succeed is to surround yourself with people more talented than yourself."

Not sure if I agree with that literally, but the spirit makes sense.
And that's something you can do no matter what city you're in.

The great thing is, forums such as this one have made the world a much smaller place....and much larger at the same time. You know what I mean.
:)

Heath McKnight April 27th, 2005 10:51 PM

In L.A. there's work, good paying work. Same with NYC and other places. From what my friends tell me in Austin, it's a bunch of filmmakers, like me, that are making (or trying to make) movies and looking for work. Which makes the demand for work high and the supply low (like houses in my area). That's why I decided not to move to Austin.

And, as Dave Attell once said, people walk around Austin with their film on their head. <g>

Many local filmmakers in Palm Beach County (home of West Palm Beach, Boca Raton and more cities we've talked about), including me, are working hard to make this into the next hot indie filmmaking areas. We're growing by leaps and bounds!

heath

Kevin Wild April 27th, 2005 11:11 PM

I think the obvious and primary difference is that there usually isn't much money in the micro or non-budget indy movie scene. It's true that Austin is an awesome place for indy filmmaking, but like I said, don't plan on making money doing it. You'd better have another job lined up if moving there. Jobwise, I found it much more "closed" than the market I'm in now...Raleigh/Durham.

Again, great city, but tough to make a living doing certain occupations there.

KW

Joe Carney April 28th, 2005 02:49 PM

Kevin, then you're not too far from Wilmington? I thought that was a great place for indie production.

Heath, I'll tell my son to keep an eye out for what you are doing. He is working overtime to get his first show on the air May 22 on the Sunshine network.
If you ever need to get some great underwater diving/fishing stuff, he would be a great resource, and after this weekend he will be living in Boca.

Luis Caffesse April 28th, 2005 04:34 PM

"It's true that Austin is an awesome place for indy filmmaking, but like I said, don't plan on making money doing it. You'd better have another job lined up if moving there. Jobwise, I found it much more "closed" than the market I'm in now...Raleigh/Durham."

It's true, I've been here for going on 10+ years now...
the number of people trying to make a living here either shooting or editing is really staggering, and because of that pretty much everyone knows someone who does that kind of work. The result of that is that most jobs wind up being 'referred' instead of 'applied for.'

I answer ads here and there when I see one that happens to fit.
But 99% of my work comes through word of mouth from a few key people that I've done work for or with. And, it took years of barely getting by to get to the point that I'm at today, where I actually feel decently secure in my position as a freelancer. But, now I'm doing pretty well, and the phone rings on it's own most of the time. It's a hard community to 'break into' jobwise, like you said, and actually make any money.

That's why I was only half way joking when I said 'dont' come to austin.'
I really don't think I could survive if one more editor moved into this city.
:)

Heath McKnight April 29th, 2005 07:27 AM

Come to Palm Beach County, Florida and make some movies!

heath

Joseph Rybarczyk June 30th, 2005 04:53 PM

How about Michigan?
Those beautiful great lakes.
That grass
and those trees
and the unpredictable weather.
and the seagulls.
Hmm..
Well I do have this really nice willow tree by my house.
How is dripping Springs, Texas? I've never seen it.
But it sure Sounds creepy.

Kevin Calumpit July 22nd, 2005 04:33 PM

I would say california San diego you've got every kind of city type and weather/environment type in close proximity, you've also got a foreign country right at your doorstep, mexico( not really foreign but a great location non the less) plus close to where i live there are plans to build a full on studio lot supposed to be finished in 2007 but who knows, i will believe it when i see it.


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