After registering at ArtBeats.Com, you get a free clip of fire burning.
I've used Retimer to speed it up/slow down, and here's the result:
Fire Clip (2.2 mb, 3ivx).
The movement is joggling a bit, I guess due to lots of movement in the frame.
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Here's an insane one - I played with points, and it now has a slow mo made up out of only 2 (!) frames. Slowed down by a factor of 42 :).

Dmitry,

Those clips look awesome. Thanks for the link to the demo page. Now I can check out ReTimer before I buy. But from the samples I've seen so far, ReTimer looks like it rules. It's a little pricy, but cheaper than a high speed film camera.

Thanks again.


Douglas

Sure. I've updated the last fire clip a couple of times. Redownload it and see if it's what you saw when you downloaded it the first time.

Make sure to try demo out as there're lots of factors which can lead to a bad looking slowmo. A good camera will solve more than half of possible problems. Other than that just be careful with camera movements and backgrounds you choose. The biggest problems I've encountered so far was either rapid camera movement or motion blur.

Douglas,

That's an interesting question. The project I was working on was in the standard 2:3 24p mode so I didn't have any trouble mixing the footage.

But...I'm just brainstorming on the spot here...is bring your 60i footage into another "project" that can handle the 60i mode, not 24p advanced. Do your slow motion effect, slow it down, so you have the clip right, say its 5 second long.

Then, take third party software like people are talking about on this thread and then convert the slow motion footage to 24p. I've never done it, so I don't know how it looks, but, maybe that's worth trying. I could be wrong...anyone else have a suggestion?

I liked the super slowed down fire so much, I've just added sound to this little clip.Here's the final.
The sound of the fire slowed down was synthesized and edited with a number of effects. You should be able to fully appreciate the sound with a good sub-woofer.
I sure do like extreme slow-mos, hehe.

dimitr,

rocking slowmotion movies..especially the movie with the 2 friends moving to a door. great.

checking out retimer.

thnx

time for some new matrix scenes!!!

Yeah, haha.
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Actually, I'm pretty sick of all the matrix scenes and all :). Although I came up with a cheap way to do the bulleti-time multi-camera effect. It just requires some skill from the actors to be able to freeze :D. Also involves green screen and a rotating office chair =).

Heh,

I saw that movie once here. I can remeber a matrix kind of look with the help of green screens and stuff. I know how it works and it is a hell of a job to get things the right way. I don't like matrix as well by the way. I slept when matrix was on 50%. I hate typical american action-movies. I prefer the real stuff, drama and daily life. BUt in romantic scenes, it is also so sexy to use super slo-mo's. It really adds something.

It's not that I don't like the Matrix at all - actually, it is one of the best Hollywood action movies out there, in terms of philosophy in the plot, effort put it, and VFX, of course. Luckily, Washowski (hope, spelt it right) really took good care of their baby. Not as much the case with Reloaded and Revolutions though, I think.
Anyhow, after the Matrix came out, the freezing-time effect became really pop. I did a lot of research on the topic, and there's basically two ways you can do it. If you're interested, I can explain in detail and post some links.
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Also, as to romantic scenes, the bullet-time like mating dream of the main character in Fight Club is CG, not real. Here's a few images from the MentalRay render used to generate images out of 3D graphics (used with most 3D software like Maya, 3dsmax, and Softimage XSI):
http://www.mentalimages.com/4_1_motion_pictures/index.html
(scroll down to Fight Club).

thnks for the link. My brother is architect and knows how to handle 3dstudio pretty well. I've done a couple of animation short movies myself. And I am also a musician (9 years of digital musicmaking wiht my pc). SO you understand why I am so interested in slomotions and movies. In this digital era, everything is posible. You don't have to be smart or rich to make a good movie. The simplier, the better. Even silly home-made cartoons sell. The thing is that you can't really create something with presets and tutorials. You need an idea and you need to have some talent (musical, theater, graphics).

Gonna check the pics out. thanks

Yeah, actually I make music on my PC myself. Not the Fruity kind of thing. Cubase, a lot of VST FX and VSTi-s, post-mastering in Wavelab. That's what my problem is now - I doubt which direction to choose to stick with: film, music, or, preferable, both. You always need soundtracks for the films, don't you. :)

Shoot at 60i or 60p. If you are working with 24 fps. You already have 40% slow motion (24/60=.4).

What I do is shoot my footage in ALL 60i. I first deinterlace the frames, so my 60i is now 60p (using motion compensation-- AviSynth). Then convert the scenes with no slow-motion from 60p to 24p. The slow motion scenes I want, I will isolate and just use the script:


AVISource("x:\your_dv.avi")
#deinterlace 60i to 60p
TDeint()

#take 60 fields and put them on a 24p timeline
AssumeFps(23.967)


You now have your 60p material sitting on a 24p timeline (which is 40% slow motion).

That's swell. Also, for fast moving objects the shortest available shutter speed should be set.
By the way, what camera do you have, Josh?

I have a Sony VX2000. It works really well. I usually bring it in to AVISynth to deinterlace, color correct, convert to 24p, and sharpen it (being sure not to over-sharpen and create halos).

my advanced magicpix shoots silky smooth slow when used during the day

On my panasonic gs-400

solution for very slow motion
 

there is a plugin called Twixtor, this plug is avesome for slomo, it interpolate nearest frames to generate other frames. has a lot of algorytms that analize the objects in each frame and theyr movements, results are very good, it was used in Blade and other actions movies for time related sfx

I've just given that Slowmotion software a try (the one that's actually called SlowMotion) and it's pretty cool. The good thing is that it is very easy to use - there's pretty much nothing to configure, except the export location and compression type... So it either works or doesn't, depending on the clip. It seems the more movement is already in the clip, the more you'll notice the "morphing" going on. But for such a cheap piece of software, it works really well.

I've played with a demo of Twixter over the weekend, and it's really awesome.
It is a lot better than Retimer, though no motion blur is still preferable.
As opposed to what many sources say, I got the smoothest results with the interlaced footage. Many artifacts started appearing around my actor after I deinterlaced the footage with Magic Bullet, and render times increased at least by a factor of 2, but image looks smoother when deinterlaced.
I need to obtain some more footage with various straight and diagonal lines on the background and see how things work out with the same footage deinterlaced, but so far I can say that I'd go with slowing the interlaced footage down and deinterlacing it afterwards. At least, that's how it works best for me at this point.

* Note - Retimer is quite the opposite of Twixtor, and with interlaced footage, even with the input fields set to lower or upper, the results are horrible. Though I like the Twixtor's algorithm more. I got less artifacts with deinterlaced footage from Twixtor than with the same footage from Retimer.

NOt lots of options are being offered today! A pitty. Twixtor is really the best solutiong. Even Adobe premier or vegas can't handle nice super-sexy-slo-motion scenes. I am talking about an easy preset.

I am testing some other solutions out. I am working with mixing 2 identical scenes one on top of the other, adding extra scenes between scenes and using motion blurring as a tool. Very hard to get that slomotion but it also depends on your footage (background-foreground).

I don't think there is Any "Click once and get the best results" solution for anything involving art. Especially in mid-end apps range like Adobe Premiere or Vegas.

I just bought twixtor PRo 4.5 plug-in for adobe after effects 6.5. I must say that I have been testing with every kind of camcorder. Even my webcam shots are bad in quality but playing around with them, you get to know the power of twixtor. It's an expensive plug-in but the best you can get for slo-motions (example: blond girl from destiny child's kind of videos, with J-ZEA).

The motion vector and blend options are very sophisticated. Of cours, you need to go through a long tutorial but it is worth while. You can downlaod the tutorial at their site. I am now trying to create some slow micheal jackson dance moves and see what I get. I am also gonna try some slapping/kicking action . Keep it simple, otherwise it will to hard to get good results.,

Nothing more.

It's been a while since I made that post, but I have tested Twixtor further and it indeed seems like the best slow mo solution. Same golden rules - steady shots, the least artifacts possible, and you can get even ultra slow mo shots.
I bet with that addition to DVX100 that let's you record uncompressed signal, you can get simply jawdropping ulta slow-mos.

Jaw dropping slow-mo from shake 4.
 

Hey Guys,
I've been testing with shake 4 and I cannot believe how good the slow-mo is. Here is a test I did with a car driving up at 20mph. This was shot on an FX-1:

http://www.expertmagic.com/dvinfo/911out.mov

THIS IS VERY SLOW-MO, you need to watch very very close to see the car moving. If you still can't drag the playhead back and forth to see the movement.

I also first separated the fields to frames, then comformed to 24p. So I was able to start out already at 40%. Overall this is running at .4% of real time, which is just insane. Basically slower than I could ever need.

Thanks,
Eric James
http://www.expertmagic.com/

Yeah, that's very similar to what I got with Twixtor, but even slower!
Awesome.
You guys with HD cams - next assignment to test Twixtor on:
Try something that consists of many particles. Like an object dropped in water or glass breaking in pieces. You of cors have to use the shortest shutter setting you have to not have motion blur.
Also, another cool shot is someone with long hair jumpin up and spreading their arms and legs in the air. I've tried that one, and it turned out pretty good, only some DV artifacts affected the overall image movement.

Gotta love technology!

Just a year ago I wouldn't have thought this type of slow-mo from video was ever possible.


-Eric James

Hello

i would be interested to see this particle effect you talk of can anyone try this and post the results up please.

thanks

There's a super-slo-mo camera system from about twenty years back, which ran the film so fast that a mechanical shutter was out of the question...so the engineers devised a spinning prism system that laid each frame onto the film as it sped past the aperture, without slowing or stopping for each frame.

Of course, afterwards every frame had to be scanned and re-registered onto standard stock; the prism-approach introduced a lot of jitter.

Best example of footage from this camera that I've seen, is the "Genesis Explosion" from the end of "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan." They blew up the miniature using white phosporus, and you can distinctly see the spherical shock front travelling outwards as the model disintegrates...

Hi

Can anyone try this and post it up please i don’t have twixtor and would be interested to see how well this works.

thanks