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Reid Bailey October 27th, 2005 08:03 AM

Thanks Ben,

The demo clips look very smooth. I need to do one slow mo scene in my next project and this may be the ticket. The price is right too.

Steven Fokkinga October 28th, 2005 02:29 AM

So how does this program compare to twixtor and retimer? The price is phenomenal if it can do the same as those programs!

Vigna Raajan October 28th, 2005 06:02 AM

I just now tried the trial version of Motion perfect with 2 clips.
One interlaced clip and one progressive. For whatsoever reason the Progressive clip looks better than interlaced.

Its...
# awesome
# smooth
# affordable.

Thanks a bunch Ben.

Also, can anyone please eloborate the procedures to be followed while shooting a stunningly detailed slow-motion sequence in DV and what settings should I have in my Camera. Mine is a DVX - 102A (PAL). Thanks in advance.

Vigna Raajan.

David Morton October 28th, 2005 06:37 AM

Is that the same program as Motion perfect by Dynapel?

David

Bill Porter October 30th, 2005 11:41 AM

Thanks for posting, Ben W.

Yes, Gooder is just one of the many reseller sites for Dynapel's products.

You should have seen the old clips on Dynapel's site before they redid it (it was better before). I have them cached locally and will host them on FTP so you guys can see.

Edit: Looks like Gooder has a local version of the page from Dynapel's old site, here:

http://www.goodervideo.com/videos/MpVideos.html

Check out the race car vid if it works. Amazing. Let me know if it doesn't work, and I will host it.

The software is so cheap, like 17 euros.

James Llewellyn November 3rd, 2005 07:48 PM

The program looks like it uses a really nifty morph effect between the frames. I remember seeing something similiar using winmorph to recreate bullettime.

Mark Olsen November 21st, 2005 01:49 PM

Downloading the trial right now. Looking forward to seeing how this works!

Craig Seeman November 22nd, 2005 09:17 PM

Shots like that are EASY.

I use Boris Continuum Complete Optical Flow Filter. It's not hard for the filter when it's a single moving object with a solid background.

Try several moving objects that cross paths against a complex background. Settings for Optical Flow get REAL TRICKY then.

The shot he posted looks fine at default settings except for the speed itself.

Jim Rog November 25th, 2005 10:39 PM

Hello

What good plug-ins are available for vegas or stand alone that can give very slow motion? like this below

http://www.realviz.com/gallery/spec....=5&&product=rt

Thanks

Bill Porter November 26th, 2005 08:29 AM

Jim, MotionPerfect by Dynapel seems pretty awesome. Download the trial and see for yourself.

Jim Rog November 26th, 2005 04:45 PM

Hi

i looked at it but can’t get no real time preview can you?

Bill Porter November 26th, 2005 07:13 PM

http://www.goodervideo.com/products/MP.html

Try this reseller of it; they still are showing the old MotionPerfect clips from Dynapel's old site. I still don't know why Dynapel took them down; they are great examples. This one is 20:1 speed reduction:

http://www.shadowlabs.com/WebVideos/...n.20x.Race.avi

Mike Henderson December 5th, 2005 12:01 PM

I had tried out this software but it did not work for me and there isn't any contact info for the developer. What I am looking for is very similar to what is being displayed in the video of the "Rugby" team, it is the last option on this page:

http://www.goodervideo.com/videos/index.html

When I opened up the video of the rugby team, I believe it was using "quicktime" player so I tried out quicktime player but this did not do the trick so I am guessing that it was the combination of both the Gooder slomo software and quicktime that was producing those results but becuase I cannot contact the developer this is still a "guess".

Anyway, my son plays sports and I wanted to have this exact type of slomo control when veiwing his games which I record with a Canon digicam. I do not have much money to spend on expensive software so I am stuck. If anyone here can take a look at the link provided and download and try out the Rubgy video clip, just move the "play" slider as quick or as slow as you may want to to the left or right and you will see that you can control the slomo in the same way that the NFL or NBA does, this is simply what I am looking for. I wish to control my son's game film in "smooth" slomo by dragging the slider at whatever speed I wish.

Can anyone shed any light on that Gooder video or recommend any other software that does it like this please? Thanks.

Ben Winter December 5th, 2005 12:40 PM

That means controlling the derivative of velocity: acceleration. Sorry to get all "mathy" on you but that's what first jumped into my mind, controlling the slope of the tangent to the graph of how fast the clip would play. I don't think MotionPerfect does that at all; you would want to use the Time graph settings in FCP or something similar to that. Look for some kind of "acceleration" control for video clips, maybe that's what you're looking for. Otherwise, look for an NLE-integratable plugin like MotionPerfect that has keyframmable controls.

Mike Henderson December 5th, 2005 12:44 PM

well Ben, I really don't fully understand what you wrote but I will do some searching and look into what you've told me, if I could contact whoever did that particular Rugby video slomo, I would have all my answers, appreciate the help Ben, will report back here if I find anyhting, thanks.


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