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Frank Goertzen May 2nd, 2003 01:21 AM


You can obviously tell which was shot with an xl1s and which was 'fixed' in post(if not 1st post, 2nd original) I think that the first one is pretty or as close as I'm getting to a 'film look' any suggestions?

Rob Lohman May 2nd, 2003 05:17 AM

As close to what? I think they both look fine, but the first one is
truly spectacular! I really love that look. Superb job!!!

Frank Goertzen May 2nd, 2003 08:59 AM

[Close to the film look]

Dylan Couper May 2nd, 2003 09:22 AM

I like the second one better.

Christopher Hughes May 2nd, 2003 12:48 PM

I like the first one, but prefer the 2nd one cos it seems more crisper that the 1st one which looks too soft to the point of looking like out of focus. But thats just my opinion.

Regarding the first one - have you anyother photos showing that look in other lighting situations with people in. I'd be interested on that very softness if its "useabl" with people rather than just objects.

Derrick Begin May 2nd, 2003 01:11 PM

Excellent foreboding staircase...

The original(2) is cold and ominous. The touched one(2) is warmed up a bit by the yellow.

What a great stair well! Very active photo. Depending what you want to do with it or where it fits in the story, I think the original is a great base.

How far did the stairs extend down? Could you see the bottom? I'm just curious about the range of blacks and the detail contained.


Frank Goertzen May 2nd, 2003 03:15 PM

We don't have any other shots of any subjects on the staircase although we might soon. And are story is a little out of focus at the moment to. But thanks for the interest.

Dylan Couper May 3rd, 2003 08:22 AM

The over manipulation of the colour in the first one distracts me from the subject matter.
So instead of thinking "Wow, that's a cool staircase"
I think "Wow, he spent some time in post on that."

Which is better?

Frank Goertzen May 3rd, 2003 09:17 AM

The first one heh.

Cazi Brasga May 5th, 2003 02:45 AM

The first pic looks like something that would be in matrix, with the green tint.
In case you didn't notice, whenever they are in the matrix there is a a subtle green tint to everything and when they are out of the matrix, everything is "normal".

Zac Stein May 5th, 2003 03:30 AM

How was that effect achieved in the first one?

Rob Lohman May 5th, 2003 04:15 AM

Cazi: actually the "normal" world has a blue cast to it. The matrix
world is indeed green.

Akos Szemenyei May 7th, 2003 10:36 AM

One word, terrible, but if you add some lights and recreate the mood without the crushed blacks and grain, I think it can be an amazing looking shoot.

Derrick Begin May 7th, 2003 11:40 AM


Thats what I was looking for. How can you tell from this still photo regarding the crushed blacks? I assumed that if you can't see a range from light black to deep blacks ala the details at the bottom of the staircase...

Let me know.


Akos Szemenyei May 9th, 2003 07:59 AM

Hmm... I'm not sure if I use the term crushed blacks corectly, but all the grain comes from the lack of lighting and that in turn (the way I express it) is crushing the blacks, since it's more gray now and basically your blacks are gone.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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