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Mat Thompson April 22nd, 2008 09:12 AM

UWOL #8: The Pull Of The Moon by Mat Thompson
 
Hey guys

Well I was very happy I managed to finish this round, I nearly took my second swim this time and after last time I can tell you its not a nice place ;-) ! Thanks for the encouragment folks...It does help when your feeling its just not going to happen.

Anyway, the film. It was all shot quite locally (only 30mins away) which was a nice uwol change for me. I was also lucky to fall on a spring tide/full moon phase at the right time with a tidal range of 4.5 metres! I really didn't get the time I wanted to put into the wading birds and they were all snatched moments unfortunately. It is difficult to get close to a lot of these waders especially locally with large open mud flats. I think the premise of the piece worked well and I was quite pleased with the timelapse sequences which I think do give the piece that 'Transformation' feel.

http://www.uwolchallenge.com/challen...lofthemoon.mov

Anyway quite enough from me....as usual please rip it up folks!!

Oliver Pahlow April 22nd, 2008 07:11 PM

Hi Mat,

I thought your tideful changes were wonderful. Howlong did you have to keep your camera still to capture the tide changes? Overall I thought it was a great short and an interesting subject.

Oliver Pahlow

Mat Thompson April 23rd, 2008 03:17 AM

Oliver: It changes by about 1m+ an hour on a spring tide so those timelapses were taking 1.30-2hrs each.

Rob Evans April 23rd, 2008 03:44 AM

Hey Mat!

Really lovely timelapses, an interesting concept and a great story told from start to finish. Love the moon close-ups, and a great array of waders captured well. I've always loved the continuing change in tidal regions, and this fim makes me want to grab the scope and get out on the pans....

I had some jarring on some of the pans, which I think seems to be more of a codec/compression issue than a filming problem - can you verify that or is it just my player?
The other thing I would comment on is VO - it had a tendancy to be a bit "monotone" at times which i did feel detracted from the film overall. A trick used in theatre is to read through the script many times and find "high points" where you increase vocal pitch and intensity to give it more variety - which in turn makes it more interesting to the ear.... I hope that helps in some way ;-)

Trond Saetre April 23rd, 2008 03:53 AM

Hi Mat,

That was a cool video to watch.
Great timelapses and use of the moon shot.

Thanks for sharing!

Bryce Comer April 23rd, 2008 06:41 AM

Hey Mat,
Another great entry from you! I loved the VO, it was really informative, & worked well with the pace of your film. Your story about the effect of the moon on the tides was a great idea, & i loved the way you closed by coming back to it. Who would have known there were that many invertabrates in every square meter of ground, it sounds like a waders paradise! A couple of your long shots had a bit of shake in them, probably from a bit of wind i guess. How long a lens were you having to use for the waders?
Great film,
Bryce

Mat Thompson April 23rd, 2008 07:37 AM

Cheers guys

Rob: Yep that jarring is something I'm going to have to look at in my compression routine. Its happened to a lesser level in some of my other films but its very obvious in this....annoying! This was actually the second of 2 takes done at about 9pm just before the deadline but I know what you mean about monotone...I thought exactly the same, it needs better accents points in the delivery.

Bryce: Yeah most of the wader stuff was at the long end of 2000mm equiv and it picks up any movement easilly, I do need some long lens support to help this as its a problem I have consistantly. - Yeah the amount of life in that mud is crazy...the most of any ground in the UK!

Dale Guthormsen April 23rd, 2008 11:15 AM

Mat,

the time lapse was an essential part to you video, good job. The title said it all!!

I liked the green wing teal shot, would have loved more of the male!!

Would have loved to see the birds in uncompressed video!!

The one bird looks like a north American avocet with slightly different color patterns, at 1:53. What do you call it??

Nice to see some new birds!!!

I think you told the story well!! both visually and with the VO.

good job!!

Catherine Russell April 23rd, 2008 11:28 AM

Hi Mat:

Another masterpiece. You are becoming a premiere wildlife cinematographer! The time lapses were masterful, a great interpretation of the theme, and the narration very informative. What's to rip? I didn't even notice the "shakes"!

Cat

Ruth Happel April 23rd, 2008 11:30 AM

I really like the timelapse sequences, they made the tidal changes come alive. And the moon footage was excellent- really added drama to the piece. I think the VO was fine, though as noted possibly more variation in intonation would have been better. I liked the flow of your piece, but if there was some way to mix up the footage more- it seemed all the mudflat shots were back to back, and then all the bird-, it would have been more interesting. Maybe just like the modulation in your voice, just a bit of change in imagery would have made it even more lyrical. But I really enjoyed this film, and am amazed by how great the changes are in such a short time. Thanks for sharing.

Ruth

Adrinn Chellton April 23rd, 2008 11:42 AM

I liked this one, the VO was solid and the time-lapse work was nice, I noticed the slight jarring as well but for me it didn't detract from the story.

It's hard to smooth out the levels/colors during a time-lapse, you have to practically go frame by frame and color correct, clouds moving and obscuring the sun is the biggest problem in my experience.

Bruce Foreman April 23rd, 2008 11:54 AM

Mat, the time lapse mesmerized me, and went so well with the mood of your film. A very relaxing, soothing, yet visually very strong few moments. And I think your voice in the vo worked very well with the quite visual mood of what you did.

Meryem Ersoz April 23rd, 2008 08:13 PM

Very cool timelapses--those worked very well and nailed the theme. I know putting these together was pushing your existing skill set, and they turned out very nicely! I'm always psyched to see the players try new things...

I don't know if it is a compression issue, but the focus on this piece seemed softer to me than what I am accustomed to from you. And the colors seemed flatter -- granted, mud flats are a less picturesque landscape than some of your other entries...

You are inspiring me to try to do some nat history lessons, I'll probably give that approach a try in one of these rounds -- you seem to dig up some interesting facts about the areas around you, and I like that approach. It does tie up the images nicely.

Bob Thieda April 24th, 2008 12:56 PM

Mat...
I have to concur with the rest of the folks here....excellent!

The timelapse stuff was very well done. Your VO was informative and interesting.
Loved all the different birds....

Nice work!

Bob T.

Geir Inge April 25th, 2008 03:05 PM

Great story and your timelaps is awesome.
What lens do you use for the moon shot?
OK VO, but maybe some more variation in intonation? (I'm not sure about the English word here, just guessing) would have been nice. I'm always rehearsing before I do the recording, but then again I always think it sounds funny to here my own voice :)
Your film is both entertaining and educating.

All the best.
Geir Inge

Mike Beckett April 26th, 2008 12:47 PM

Mat,

Super film. The timelapse sequences were spot on - and they fitted well with the theme rather than just having timelapse for timelapse's sake.

Some great bird shots there too, though I'd like to know whatsome of them are without having to get a book - my junior RSPB membership expired many many years ago and I've forgotten a lot of the more unusual breeds.

You did well to get that shot at 1:53 through the reeds - I think it's an Avocet - and it looked right at the limits of the zoom but it worked out!

I feel your voiceover pain! I thought it worked well - after all, I don't any of us are professional voiceover artists - and to me implies this is being made by someone with genuine interest in the topic rather than a paid professional.

Mat Thompson April 26th, 2008 04:25 PM

Hey guys. Many thanks for your comments. I was pleased with the way the timelapses came out and they were really what the film was going to shape itself around. I have to say they aren't the most interesting things in the world to do but the results are suprising and interesting when you get the footage into the NLE!

Birds...ok then in order of appearence were....

Group of Black tailed godwit
Oyster Catcher (In flight and on ground)
Black tailed godwit
Black headed gull
Teal
Redshank
and finally the Avocet

:-)

I really like wading birds and I still plan on laying down some really good footage when I can get the right hide at a good distance!

John Dennis Robertson April 28th, 2008 07:40 AM

As always quality work from you Mat.Technically I think you are improving with every round.I strive to get close to the quality video's that you produce.

Benjamin Durin May 1st, 2008 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mat Thompson (Post 865829)
It changes by about 1m+ an hour on a spring tide so those timelapses were taking 1.30-2hrs each.

Only 2 hours? How disappointing, I thought you were so patient to do the timelapse for a tide during half a day. ;)
Really was all very well done, good movie.

Marj Atkins May 3rd, 2008 01:41 PM

Well if I could pull off a movie like this in such a short period of time as you have done here I would be amazed. If nothing else it proves that having an awareness of things going on around one and a general knowledge of these things can really come in handy at times like this when time is tight. I would never have thought to do what you did here in such a short space of time.

You have an interesting story to tell as usual. I am absolutely amazed at the figures you quoted - certainly adds up to a lot of worms! (156 billion in 13,000 hectares - if my arithmetic is right - hmmm - more than you would need to catch a fish I think.)

Pretty intriguing to watch the tide disappearing and re-appearing like that in such a short space of time - another amazing example of transformation that occurs almost imperceptibly around us on a daily basis. Time-lapse is a wonderful tool for demonstrating things like this.

I feel for you people living in that dull, dreary weather though, where images are almost always soft and grey and flat. We have had more than our usual share of rain this summer and I found it quite frustrating - so I do sympathize.

Well done Mat, on a very interesting video.


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