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Steven Gotz March 23rd, 2007 06:59 PM

UWOL #2: "Tennis" by Steven Gotz
 
Well, to start off with, this should probably have been named "Topspin" because it is a tennis lesson on the What, Why and How of using Topspin in tennis. I know, I know... Most of these people are making art and I submit something utilitarian. I am much more a technician than an artist.

When I first heard "recreation" I tried to figure out what animals I could shoot movies of that "play". Then I realized it could be people.

Well, I run the tennis website for our community here in Florida. I am not a good tennis player, nor a particularly good web site designer, but it is something I can contribute. I want people to come to the site, so I thought original content would help keep them coming and they would see the calendar, etc.....

I also wanted to help out the tennis pro with a free ad. I have been putting off getting a video done for him, but once I realized I could get two things done with one video, all of a sudden I had a reason to get off my duff and get something done.

So, thanks to the organizers of this contest, I got it done, the web site has a tutorial, and I have an entry.

I did the best I could with the audio. The courts were crowded that day and the ladies playing on the court behind us made a lot of noise. And the trucks seemed to decide that it would be a good time to roll by en masse on the road right behind the courts. I wanted to have him do it again, only without natural sound (and without his lips moving). But, you get what you get sometimes. He had a lesson to give so all I got was a few minutes of his time!

The music is SmartSound and the animation was done in After Effects. Editing was done with Premiere Pro 2.0. I exported a DV AVI, and used Quicktime Pro to convert to 720X480, then ran it through again to get 320X240. I shot it widescreen HDV with the Sony FX1 but it didn't really demand the wide aspect, so I figured I would get a better quality by keeping the frame size smaller.

I hope you enjoy the tennis lesson.

Marco Wagner March 23rd, 2007 07:15 PM

Great points Steven! Recreation is a WIDE subject and I think the reason we all have something totally unique.

James Hooey March 23rd, 2007 07:41 PM

I think this video shows the commerce side of video very well and works in with the theme just fine! The video is more or less a video to spec I suppose in that you had a defined topic and a number of items to cover within the video. I'm not a tennis player but the video kept me watching to see what topspin was all about. No...the video was not artsy but it was certainly technically proficient and informative.

Good stuff!

James Hooey

Ruth Happel March 23rd, 2007 08:29 PM

I thought this video was really well shot, and between the footage and your animation, certainly made a very clear point. Glad you could do two things at once!

My only comment would be, toward the beginning, once when the pro was demonstrating with the ball, you cut off part of his face, showing only the ball and his mouth. If you had tilted the camera slightly to show his face at the same time, I think it would have been better.

Great job, effective concept.

Ruth

Bruce Foreman March 23rd, 2007 09:02 PM

I think you did a good job for this guy. Compositions looked good to me in that they all served the purpose without any distracting elements. You mentioned unwanted sounds in the audio but to me they just added the right amount of location ambiance (the players we could hear). The vehicle passing by didn't drown out any instruction so it didn't bother me.

It produce training videos so could relate to what you did here.

Bruce Foreman

Steven Gotz March 23rd, 2007 09:19 PM

Ruth,

To be honest, I just didn't see that issue. It wasn't a camera shot. It was done in post.

I shot this in HDV (1080i) but edited it in 720X480 since I knew that I would never be showing it in HD. It is just for the contest and the web site, but instead of editing at 320X240 which I often do, I thought I might eventually show it in SD on the TV in the clubhouse. That is, if I ever get around to doing more, and putting it on a DVD.

So, anyway, that was as far as I could zoom in without losing quality, which is in reality, merely a scale back up to 100%. I guess I was just looking at the ball and I never noticed him at all in that shot. Whoops.

James,

Yes, the topic was pretty well defined. He used to be a high school tennis coach so he had probably given that speech every year for many years. Just never in front of a camera. I had to cut out some of the interesting technical parts where he says how high-speed cameras have determined how long a ball is actually in contact with the racquet, etc.

Bruce,

Thanks. He went off on vacation, so I don't know how he feels about it. I would like to make it into a series and release it on DVD even if it has a limited distribution to people in our area.

Marco,

Yes, a very wide topic. And a great variety of movies were submitted. Very cool contest.

Randall Allen March 24th, 2007 02:40 PM

Great job Steven. Even thought I knew what top spin you kept my attention all the way to the end.

Randy

Chris Barcellos March 25th, 2007 01:52 AM

Great insturction video on top spin in tennis. Always heard people talking about it, but this made it clear as a bell.

Mat Thompson March 25th, 2007 05:08 AM

Good informative instructional video.

It might have been nice to have fun with the angles and liven up the presentation but it wouldnt be as good at whats its meant for then.

Well, next time I venture on the court watch out :)

Steven Gotz March 25th, 2007 10:39 AM

Yes, the instructional nature of the clip limited the amount of artistic license I could take and get all of the information into 3 minutes.

I really could have used an extra two minutes to tell a story, but then again, a story was not the point. He talked about how high speed cameras have made it obvious that turning the racquet while hitting the ball is not effective due to the few milliseconds that the ball is actually in contact with the racquet. And he mentioned the initial use of topspin and how it changed the game. But, since three minutes was the limit, and none of that is really necessary to explaining topspin, I probably got a better video out of it than if I had the extra time.

This video was a HUGE stretch for me. I am usually much more inclined to do nature videos like Per Johan. Not as good as his probably, but in that style. Actually using talent and recording the voice was a challenge for me. There is no way I could ever win the DV Challenge #8 without getting really lucky, but the wireless mic set that is the grand prize would surely have been of great use, and would probably open up my options quite a bit.

I might not have been as quick to dig in and get this entry done in time if it had not been something that I needed to do for other reasons. So getting a contest entry and a donation, of sorts, to the local community out of the one video really made a difference.

It also helped that I didn't have to write a story or even come up with the topic. I came up with "tennis lesson" and he came up with the "topspin" idea, and he provided all of the verbiage with no input from me other than a little direction and "could you say that again only this time try it...."

All I can say is that this type of contest is a lot of fun, and I will certainly participate in more of them. And my thanks go out to the organizers.

Gabriel Yeager March 25th, 2007 11:09 AM

Good idea in getting a two in one! I can relate to being more on the technical side then the art side. I think it was a nice change in the challenge.

Great job on editing, and it sounds like you have got everything figured out.

Keep on making those films!
~Gabriel

Kevin Railsback March 25th, 2007 04:56 PM

Steven,

That's what the challenge is all about. You went into uncharted territory and you still came out with a really good film.

I could totally see this playing in between programming on ESPN or something!

Good job! Now I understand what all those pros are doing when they're hitting the ball!

Trond Saetre March 26th, 2007 10:17 AM

Steven, it was a very good instruction video, and you followed the theme at the same time!
The animation, framing... I liked it all.
Now I learned something new about tennis too.

Geir Inge March 26th, 2007 10:35 AM

Your video was the last I picked to look at, maybe it's because I don't play tennis. But you gave me a lesson to learn from, so now I just have to try it out for myself.
A well done and educational video.

Catherine Russell March 26th, 2007 12:51 PM

Hi Steve:

Very informational, effective at clearly covering a topic in a short amount of time. That's important in an instructional interview. Cutting to the chase. That has been the basic critisism of my own film... taking too long in the intro and not cutting to the action quicker.

Good animation as well. All in all a very educational piece and a real change from all of the other entries. I didn't find the ladies' voices at the other court distracting to the lesson.

Good clip.

Cat Russell
Spike Productions

Steven Gotz March 26th, 2007 04:02 PM

I am glad that people are enjoying the video. And the Tennis Pro (Mark) would probably be delighted to hear that someone actually learned something useful from it.

The sad part is that Mark has been on vacation and I still don't know how he feels about it.

Gordon Hoffman March 27th, 2007 10:40 AM

Steven
I've never played tennis but I enjoyed watching your video. I actually learned something and it kept my interest to the end. Good job.

Gordon Hoffman

Per Johan Naesje March 29th, 2007 03:02 PM

Most is said by the others about this one. I have neither played tennis, but now a know at least what top spin is and how you archieve it.

Nice and informative video.

Bill Taka March 29th, 2007 03:32 PM

Hi Steven,

Your entry was actually the first one I looked at since I play tennis 2-3 times a week and haven't missed a televised grand slam in 40 years. Well, the first thing I noticed was he's using a Prince O/speed port...cool. Great topspin racquet. Next, I see this older teaching pro teaching topspin and I think, oh-oh here we again - lets see his technique. As the video plays out, I really like how you took the extra effort to insert the animated graphics. The pro's explanation is acceptable on "What is Topspin" then the last segment where he actually shows us his topspin stroke is perfect. He has a very sound technique and explanation which is very good for someone over 40/50 these days. I only have one comment I would have liked to see, and that is, the topspin grip. I noticed he uses an eastern/semi-western grip which I wish he would have talked about in the beginning but under the time constraints it's totally understandable. Very well done.

Steven Gotz March 29th, 2007 04:19 PM

Bill,

Funny you should mention the grip because my original thought was to have a lesson on the different grips. But he decided the topic should be topspin.

When I decided to play tennis, I took some lessons using different spare racquets he had in the shop. When I could reliably hit the ball, it was time to buy my own racquet. I tried about a dozen of his demo units and picked one that was almost right, but needed some added weights. Without knowing it, I picked the same racquet he uses. I then used his for a few minutes and it was perfect except for the too small grip. He weighted it and wrapped the grip for my large hands and it works pretty well for me.

Paul Lashmana April 9th, 2007 05:04 AM

Uhm... where is the link to the actual video? I've read this thread like four times, still can't find it.

EDIT: Never mind, found it, but maybe a link to the website, together with the current Challenge surely could be made into a sticky? Anyway, enjoying your work!

Steven Gotz April 9th, 2007 07:56 AM

I think I was supposed to put the link in the first post but I am new at this. Sorry.

http://www.uwolchallenge.com/challen...UC2_tennis.mov


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