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Mat Thompson May 22nd, 2007 01:34 PM

UWOL#3 - "The wild point" by Mat Thompson
 
This film was by far the biggest challenge of my entries so far. So many variables to take into consideration. The tide times, the wind (Oh this ruined so much footage), the weather in general, the WALK, yes a 10 mile round trip walk for each visit which as you know has left me hobbling around.

The film was meant to be more heavily built around the large males fighting but unfortunatley the wind bounce was just too great and killed about 3x as much as went into the final 'big fight' !

The seals of Blakeney point are such great fun and very inquisitive so I just had to end the film with my favourite who I saw repeatadly over a couple of visits and in this shot came out of the water only 3-4 Metres away to see what I was up to.

Anyway guys I hope you enjoy the result....and rip it up !!!?????

Edit:Oh and these are Common and Grey seals by the way. Britain has 50% of all the worlds Grays!

Shot with Canon XL2 - Sigma 100-300 F4 / edited with P-pro - All shot at Blakeney point, Norfolk, UK.

Steven Gotz May 22nd, 2007 01:45 PM

OK, I am not normally a jealous person. I can watch videos of birds and think "Yes, I have seen pretty birds", and I can watch other videos and think "I have seen such things.". But your footage is the first in a long time that made me think about making vacation plans specifically for getting footage like that.

Wow! Very cool.

Now that is the point of making nature videos!

Geir Inge May 22nd, 2007 02:58 PM

Some great shots of the seals, Mat.
Is it harbour seal?
I can feel the wind blowing, when I see the sand, blowing away.
Over at my place they got babys now in june, so I hope to get it on tape.
Great composition and the music and the voice of the seal and gulls, it fits.
I reckon you're using tripod and the little shivering is caused by the wind?

Ruth Happel May 22nd, 2007 03:32 PM

I really liked the film, great footage of the seals, and a real feeling for the windswept shore where they lived. As Geir said, the music was very organic especially the way the seal voices blended seamlessly with the composition. Sorry about the consequences of your shoot, but it was worth it!

Ruth

Trond Saetre May 22nd, 2007 05:41 PM

Great video Mat!
You got nice shots of those seals.

Chris Barcellos May 22nd, 2007 05:52 PM

Mat:

Very nice. And you got the nice closeups that I envied in this project !! How'd you keep the camera out of the salt spray and sand with that wind howling like it was ??

Catherine Russell May 22nd, 2007 05:58 PM

Mat:

For what you went through you sure put up a fantastic film. Congratulations! From the recent dialog of your frustrations I wasn't expecting anything like this! I also thought you had amazing good luck and timing with the crab being washed away. All around exceptional work.

Now I have two questions. First, are you out of the hospital yet? Feeling better? I hope so! Second. I am seeing often in everyone's filming the fading in and out of yourselves walking in the picture. May I ask how you are doing this? I could make an educated guess if the background wasn't moving, but you had waves in the background and lots of movement. Can you share your secret?

Thanks for putting so much into your film, and quality work.

Cat

Kevin Railsback May 22nd, 2007 07:46 PM

Hey Mat,

Well we talked about critique earlier today so I'm gonna tell it like it is.

I have one major problem with your film and that is "The Fisher King."

I still feel it is probably the best film I've seen come out of any of the UWOL challenges.

I think that film was so good that unless you had an alien spacecraft land among the seals it would be damn near impossible to top that.

The title screen looked great. It set the tone for the rest of the film right out of the gate.

Where'd you get that disappearing act from? If I didn't know any better I'd think you lifted it from a Geocaching film. :)

For me something was kind of missing in the set up leading up to the first shot of the seals. Out of all of them, I liked the wave washing away the crab the best. To me that looked the most like a Mat Thompson shot.

I like how you could see the seals way off in the distance and their vocalizations came into play before we actually get a chance to see them

The first shot of the seals is killer. Little bit of wind shake but not so much that it takes away from the subjects. For me, that was the shot. The windswept sand, the vocalizations, the subtle background score. That's where the film started for me.

Your seal footage was fantastic. But again, I wouldn't expect any less from you.

Even though your goal was to show two males battling it out for dominance, I think you made a greater statement about seals by not focusing so much on the fighting.

Not only is it a good film but it's an enjoyable one. Sometimes you don't have both. A film can be technically good but be agonizing to watch.

Your films are always one of the first ones I download. I have to say, I've never been dissapointed.

You managed to make something out of very daunting conditions. I doubt most of us could have done as well in the best of conditions.

Great job as always!

Mat Thompson May 23rd, 2007 05:38 AM

Thanks all for the kind words.

Geir - Common and Grey seals fella - Yeah I wanted to capture 'the wild' I went out there on one of the days and they were basking in sunshine with no wind unfortunately they were quite inactive so I stuck with the windy footage. Although it was technically very difficult to work with. Yeah at equivalent of over 2000mm there’s no way not to use a tripod but the 20mph+ winds made working hard.

Steven - I can highly recommend spending some time with these guys, SO inquisitive and interesting social interactions.

Chris - Home made plastic sheet cover as well as a cheap (and crappy unfortunately) small hide on the last visit.

Cat - Didn't stay in the Hospital just had to see a Doc and pick up lots of drugs. - The disappear is very easy just take a shot without you and the shot with and cross-fade transition between the two, skill is to do it quickly and get everything in the shot the same apart from you !

Kevin- Damn that Fisher king ;-) ! hhhmm I'm interested in what you think was missing in the build up...any ideas? Disappearing act, lol told you they would be a Railsback rip-off in there somewhere! This was the most technically difficult shoot I had and the funny thing is the seals are almost guaranteed...all the other variables unfortunately aren’t, this also gave me a hard edit, every sequence had to have wind shake cut out of it which really broke the flow in most case....tough! I'm glad its enjoyable because they really are enjoyable to sit and watch for a few hours...I'll be going back again for sure at some point...when I can walk again.

Tom Schumann May 23rd, 2007 06:56 AM

hi mat,

truly enjoyed this piece. i can imagine how enjoyable it must be to watch them for hours. i especially like the shots around 1:00 min where you can see the birds fighting against the wind (you couldn't have introduced the difficult conditions any better). looks amazing, almost like an effect (actually at first I thought it was one). and the last shot. the animals looking right at you, being interested in what you're doing aren't the favourites for nothing.

great film

Catherine Russell May 23rd, 2007 08:38 AM

Thanks for the info Mat:

That is most certainly how you would think one does the disappearing act, but what threw me was the rolling sea break in the background. It looks seamless. I marvel at how you matched that up so well with both shots: you in and you out. I'll have to go back a watch that again!

Cat

Bruce Ellingwood May 23rd, 2007 09:39 AM

Wow. Great images Mat. And I mean great shots. Although I don't think I would have worried so much about the wind shake. The wind is as much a character in the story as the ocean.
Again, I really liked it alot. :)

Bruce

Rob Evans May 23rd, 2007 11:09 AM

Hey Mat,
That gets my seal of approval. arf! arf! ;-)
Great shots, lovely intro and some great soundtrack/music mixing. Absolutley loved the way you brought the conflict scenes in with the change in tone of music, and the ending with the seal looking into the camera alongside the sorrowful feel of the music really gave a feel of pathos - i loved it!! You did well in those winds to stave the shakycam off.....

Cheers,

Rob

Per Johan Naesje May 23rd, 2007 03:04 PM

Mat,
I liked this very much. Think we had the same technique for disappearing :-)
Very well filmed with nice establising and close-up shots.
Your editing was real good, though a minor flaw at 1:30, the two clips are taken under different light conditions and are very visible when used in a sequence.
The "baby" seal at the end was very charming :-)

Your are on my top 5 list.

Gabriel Yeager May 23rd, 2007 10:35 PM

Wow Mat! I am sorry about your foot. However, I think you will be ok with it in a few months/years when you look back at this spectacular piece of work that you made! I love it!! There is not one thing I would change about it...

Absolutely wonderful piece of work!

Great job! I hope you get better soon!
~Gabriel

Mat Thompson May 24th, 2007 05:35 AM

Cheers guys...As I've said this piece was by far the biggest challenge so far but I've also learnt the most by doing it!

Tom: Yeah actually my girlfriend asked whether I'd overlayed the 'gull glides'....no they were there, although the sounds are added after !

Bruce: I wanted the weather wild but it was certainly the hardest 'character' to put to tape.

Per : Getting the shots to look consistant was a real problem as I lost some part of every sequence to the wind....pans were just out of the question! I will check out that cut :)

Jeff Hendricks May 24th, 2007 07:14 AM

Mat...Good film man.

Love the music, the work you put into getting us intimate with the (I am guessing harbor seals). My favorite shot was where we see the waves crashing and then the close up of the dead crab getting washed away. Those are amazing animals...I imagingne that there were a few sharks patroling nearby such a crowded beach of tasty morsels! :)

Thanks for the film...can you put a tutorial of the best way to compress a film and put it onlie? (like the for dummies version)...I need help with that.

I really liked the music...did you use a loop program like Acid to make it?

good work,

Jeff

Bruce Foreman May 24th, 2007 01:31 PM

Mat, this was a beautiful film with a remote and wild feel to it. Great visuals, audio sharp and clear with music that enhanced the mood.

Instead of repeating all the neat things others have said, I'll add my own high complement by asking your permission to screen this one for our local photography club. They sure enjoyed the last one.

Bruce Foreman

Oh yeah, that last shot of the seal giving you the "Who the heck are you?" look. Glad you included that.

Gordon Hoffman May 25th, 2007 09:06 AM

Mat
Well in a way I'm glad that I'm not the only one who looses a lot of footage due to winds. Funny how it seems to happen in the shot you really need. I have to say considering the conditions you did very well to get what footage you got. It was a pleasure to watch well done.

Gordon Hoffman


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