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Susanto Widjaja October 19th, 2009 02:14 AM

all 7d semi SDE
Hi guys,

I'd like to share this semi SDE that we did last saturday.

Natalia & Indra semi Same-Day Edit Trailer

All the prep stuff was done on friday so we had time to gather the footage and convert them the night before we shoot the church and the location photos.

It certainly feels great to shoot 25p.... feels like home............



Stephen J. Williams October 19th, 2009 07:41 AM


I did it... Caught you or a member of your crew at 3:34 :-)

Awesome video... The opening shot just told me it was going to be another great cinematic approach to a wedding highlight. Man I wish I had a glide track or indie slider. IMO I think those shots added a higher degree of professionalism then the flying shots.
But don't take me the wrong way because your flying shots were awesome too...

I loved how they met each other for the first time. I was kind of wondering what was going on for a second with the groom being escorted backwards by friends and family. For a second I had the impression that there was a fight :-) (it was a very short second)

When they met back to back I smiled... Do you or the photog set that up. Or is that a custom in your area. Totally dug it! Much better then the classic bride walkup behind the groom and tap on the shoulder (uhggg yuck)!


Susanto Widjaja October 19th, 2009 09:05 AM

Thanks for the comment Stephen!

Yes.. that was me... with my merlin...

I couldn't help but to use that shot cause I really like the composition there... o well... a bit of exposure wouldn't hurt would it? LoL!

The back to back thingy was a culture thing. we didn't set it up or anything (well we did give instructions and stuff) but it was meant to be like that.

I agree that slider shots are great but I think they don't beat the flying shots though.

It just depends in what situation would you pick which if you know what I mean.

If I had to choose either one, I'd still choose my steadicam because there is more flexibility there but many people would think otherwise.


Mitchell Yazdani October 20th, 2009 10:21 PM

Great job Santo,

Can you please tell me what did you actually use for this, was it steadicam, what is merlin and slider shot?



Bill Vincent October 21st, 2009 06:02 AM

Excellent work as usual, Santo. Your shots are all so clear and crisp - what are you using to assist you in focusing the 7D? I have been shooting with the 5D and now 7D, and am trying to get a grip on focusing - I seem to have some issues every time I shoot. Are you using a handheld monitor, or a Z-Finder, or something else?

Susanto Widjaja October 21st, 2009 09:45 AM

Thanks guys

I use steadicam merlin with the 7d and it doesn't work well at the moment. it doesn't balance nicely YET.. still trying to modify the settings and such and such.

I don't use any monitor. just focus by eye basically. the 7d has more depth of field than the 5d due to the smaller sensor. It actually works in our favor because you'll keep more in focus while still maintaining gorgeous pictures. I would recommend 5d people to go f2.8 THE MOST.. faster than that and it is super hard to keep focus.. for me at least.. just go really shallow depth of field on beauty shots that you can take time on.

my advice is always, take that extra 2-3 seconds to check your focus each and everytime. it'll worth your while. out of focus shots in 5d is worse than focused jvc everio... :P

Hope that helps guys..

5d with 25p??? YEAAAHHH BABYYY!!!!


Bill Vincent October 21st, 2009 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Susanto Widjaja (Post 1435789)
out of focus shots in 5d is worse than focused jvc everio... :P

Ha ha... yep! Very interesting tho that you don't use a monitor at all. In dark receptions is where I'm having the most focus trouble, since I have to open everything up so much on the camera. Drives me nuts right now, I'm trying to figure out how to handle it. Z-Finder still seems like a possibility, Bloom swears by it.

Mitchell Yazdani October 21st, 2009 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by Susanto Widjaja (Post 1435789)
I would recommend 5d people to go f2.8

What do you think about 24-105 F4 for 5D, is that a good lens or you receommend any thing better?


Susanto Widjaja October 22nd, 2009 12:24 AM

Bill: z-finder looks great! haven't tried one so I can't really tell. but it certainly looks promising. I use the hoodman hoodloupe but only during bring daylight. it is not the greatest tool but it does the job for the money.

Mitchell: 24-105 will give you a nice range with the consequence of the fstop.

if there is 24-105 f2.8 it will be a killer lens.. but that would remain a dream for everyone...

I'd say you can't go wrong buying it. I took a few weeks to decide which lens to get and I went for 24-70 f2.8 and am very happy with it. but at times when using it I would hate it when the zoom is just not long enough. so its a give and take. I just happen to have chosen the faster fstop..


Mitchell Yazdani October 22nd, 2009 04:39 PM

Thanks mate, do you use 5D as well or just the 7D, do you think with the new firmware which is going to be released next year still 7D is a better camera for video?
What is the story with the Canon lenses we can not do a manual aperture for video, so some one was recommending Nikon lens, is that correct?

Susanto Widjaja October 22nd, 2009 07:58 PM

Hi mitchell,

Now that the 5d will have 25p. There is no huge difference between the two except for full frame and sensor size. I personally think the smaller sensor size in the 7d actually works in our benefit because the depth of field isn't that shallow anymore on 1.8. 5d's depth of field is rather ridiculous in my opinion. However, the full frame on the 5D is the thing that make the choice hard.

so just think about how you would use the camera. If you think full frame is that important to you then go 5D. if not, then go 7D for 1 grand cheaper or have both! like me!

I hope that makes sense?


Mitchell Yazdani October 25th, 2009 05:28 PM

Yes, thank you.

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