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Steve Rotter March 11th, 2009 08:02 AM

framerate for weddings...
 
what do you guys prefer, 30 or 60? i personally do not like the 60 look, as it is too video-looking. i do love the 30p...i shoot with XH A1, but don't like the motion jerking for movement. i may switch to the 60. just curious what you guys choose and if any clients have actually chosen one over the other.
Steve

Monday Isa March 11th, 2009 08:14 AM

30F for me, just be careful when panning side to side, the slower the less of judder.

Craig Terott March 11th, 2009 01:21 PM

60i

-better low light performance in 60i
-much better looking slow mo
-no need to worry about choppy pans (I've got enough to think about on the wedding day)

Phillip Barnett March 11th, 2009 01:42 PM

60 - much cleaner look for me and slow-mos are much nicer

Steve Sobodos March 11th, 2009 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Terott (Post 1026129)
60i

-better low light performance in 60i
-much better looking slow mo
-no need to worry about choppy pans (I've got enough to think about on the wedding day)

On the Canon XHA1 there are different considerations:
-Better low light in 30F
-Slightly lower resolution on 30F
-If you are shooting for someone else, they might not be able to use 30F (60i is universal).

I choose to use 30F for my weddings. I post montages on the internet and progressive eliminates the jaggies. I also do frame grabs from the video and interlaced is not good for that.

J.J. Kim March 11th, 2009 03:29 PM

shoot with 60i and deinterlace when I export them for the wedding.
for interviews or other stuff, I shoot in 30p.
Working fine with me.

JJ

Steve Shovlar March 11th, 2009 03:37 PM

I shoot 720 50P. Great for the slow mo sequences as well. Shoot 25P or 24P and slow it down and you get a mess of judder.

Alex Sprinkle March 11th, 2009 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Shovlar (Post 1026193)
I shoot 720 50P. Great for the slow mo sequences as well. Shoot 25P or 24P and slow it down and you get a mess of judder.

50p? not 50i? I'm guessing that's like shooting 60p in the states. I've never shot at 60p. Do you edit that in a 25p timeline? Does that make everything slow motion already?

Blake Cavett March 11th, 2009 06:18 PM

He probably meant 50i, not 50p. 50i is for PAL, 60i is NTSC for us here in the states.

Simon Denny March 11th, 2009 06:42 PM

I use the EX1 and shoot 720/50p shutter off. Looks great downconverted for SD and slow-mo looks good.
Give it a go

Matt Bishop March 11th, 2009 07:31 PM

I always used to shoot 60 but am now shooting 24p on the A1. If you like the look of 30, why not shoot 24? With either of them, it's just a matter of learning how to shoot a little differently and knowing what kinds of shots work and don't work. Once you get that down it looks amazing!

Monday Isa March 11th, 2009 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Bishop (Post 1026311)
...If you like the look of 30, why not shoot 24?....

Because I want to keep the extra 6 frames a second :P it's just a bit smoother :)

Matt Bishop March 11th, 2009 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monday Isa (Post 1026322)
Because I want to keep the extra 6 frames a second :P it's just a bit smoother :)

haha good point!

Carl Wilky March 12th, 2009 09:04 AM

I'm shooting my first wedding at 24f at the end of this month. I shot trash your dress sessions in 24f and came out quite good, but I'm still a bit worried about shooting a wedding at this frame rate. Any of you guys have good advice, tips or things i should be careful about when shooting a weeding at 24f?

I'll be using a tripods, glidetrack & merlin for this gig.

Thank you.

Matt Bishop March 12th, 2009 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Wilky (Post 1026556)
I'm shooting my first wedding at 24f at the end of this month. I shot trash your dress sessions in 24f and came out quite good, but I'm still a bit worried about shooting a wedding at this frame rate. Any of you guys have good advice, tips or things i should be careful about when shooting a weeding at 24f?

I'll be using a tripods, glidetrack & merlin for this gig.

Thank you.


Just make sure you're moving the glidetrack fairly slow just as you would if you were panning on a tripod. As far as the merlin, really try to keep your subject of the shot the focus of the shot. If the subject stays framed the same in the shot when moving, you'll be drawn to that as opposed to watching that background or other things moving with a bit of jitter. Especially with 24, you don't have nearly as much room to fly by and around things without getting a lot of jitter and breaking up. I keep everything a little slower and much more controlled and it looks great! I'm fairly new to using 24 but it doesn't take long to know what doesn't work :-)

Matt


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