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Re: The future of wedding video?

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Originally Posted by Noa Put (Post 1647843)

Your not serious right? :) That's royalty, it would not even cross their mind having 2 or 3 guys covering a wedding event like this that is broadcasted worldwide. At events like this camera's are almost invisible and preferably lot's of them and all high end so you don't have to worry about dslr moire and aliasing with all that fine detail, I couldn't imagine seeing guys running around with their monopod and dslr's. With these type of weddings people don't care about shallow dof or a "cinematic" approach, everyone wants to see the whole picture and preferably crystal clear.

Noa, I believe you couldn't be more wrong. It's usually the higher-end bride that hires a StillMotion. Do you really think Kate is going back and watching the BBC coverage over and over?

Re: The future of wedding video?

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Originally Posted by Joel Peregrine (Post 1647767)

Hi Philip,
I think that may say more than you intended it to. In my experience couples planning weddings with the biggest budgets don't attend fairs. That puts a price ceiling on what fair vendors can charge - otherwise eyebrows will go up at the first mention of cost. That puts the videographer into a position of economizing the amount of time and resources that goes into their productions (not a bad thing for any business owner). This invariably leads to an efficient shooting and editing style, or as we call it 'documentary style'. Its doesn't mean the videographer is cutting corners, just that their style is streamlined and more consistent from one wedding to the next - things happen in order and the events are faithfully portrayed. I think the question I'm getting to is a chicken or the egg situation. Are docs offered more at fairs because the that is what the market will bear or do the doc videographers need to be at fairs to fill their schedule?

Good points Joel and cost is relative but at about $4500 we don't seem to be in the lower price bracket.

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Originally Posted by Travis Cossel (Post 1647770)

The truth of the matter is you tend to attract what you sell. You obviously sell a more documentary-style production, so you attract those couples. We sell a more cinematic-style production, and those are the couples we attract. So I don't think it's at all fair to say that 'most' couples want one style or the other unless you've done an actual research study. d;-)

And the research is as I alluded to, based solely on my experience at wedding fairs over the past six years; totally unscientific but true for what it is. At wedding fairs, unlike any other promotional media we're just people with screens of moving pictures. We always attempt to greet people and few if any specifically ask about artistic styles.

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Originally Posted by Jeff Harper (Post 1647856)

I was actually approached about videotaping Kate and Andrew's big day. I turned it down when they started nitpicking over my sample videos. I knew they were going to be difficult and I referred them to the BBC. That's how they got the job.

Jeff, you could have added that you, like most of us, couldn't give them an SDE! Your posting should be the last word on this. It is for me.

Re: The future of wedding video?

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Originally Posted by Jeff Harper (Post 1647856)

I was actually approached about videotaping Kate and William's big day. I turned it down when they started nitpicking over my sample videos. I knew they were going to be difficult and I referred them to the BBC. That's how they got the job.

And you didn't think to refer them to one of your fellow DVinfo Members? :)

We could've even all joined forces to make one large production crew, shooting on a combination of Camcorders and DSLR, doing a combination of cinematc and documentary style with both a full length, G-rated "Extended Queens Cut" version and an uncensored, highlights only "Royal Romp" edition.

What was that saying about too many cooks...

Re: The future of wedding video?

I just had a good chat with a matron of honor, I'm shooting her best friend's wedding next month. The matron of honor got married more than a year ago, and her video was done by a company that shoots their weddings entirely with DSLRs. Her initial reaction was that her video was really cool, cutting edge, and very modern. That is, of course, until the excitement wore off. In hindsight, she now thinks she made a mistake. A majority of the wedding was shot with a very shallow depth of field, focusing mainly on the couple, or pairs of guests. At the ceremony, the cameraman struggled to keep the bridal party in focus as they walked towards him during the processional. At the reception, there were great shots of the couple cutting the cake, and great steadicam shots of the couple as they danced, but everyone in the background was always out of focus. She said that after awhile, selective focus shots became annoying to watch because she wanted to see her friends in the audience, but couldn't. She said watching her wedding dvd was like looking through a peep hole...you saw what the cameraman wanted to show you, but there was much more going on that couldn't be seen! So be careful people, don't overuse that shallow depth of field!

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Originally Posted by Michael Simons (Post 1647860)

Noa, I believe you couldn't be more wrong. It's usually the higher-end bride that hires a StillMotion. Do you really think Kate is going back and watching the BBC coverage over and over?

Can you tell she isn't? The scale is totally different to even your usual higher end wedding. They may have video of the more private parts of the day, on the other hand they may just have wanted to get away from cameras.

When you've had a real royal wedding with a cast of tens of thousands, you don't need to create the cinematic impression that you've had one.

Re: The future of wedding video?

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Originally Posted by Michael Simons (Post 1647860)

It's usually the higher-end bride that hires a StillMotion.

There is a world of difference between a "higher end" audience and "royalty", they are a few classes above that figuratively speaking. In my country if a "prince" would get married it will definitely be the biggest national or commercial tv's covering their wedding, they wouldn't even know, or care, who the best known wedding videographer was. To them we are just people on the other side of the fence, if you are real lucky you get to shake their hands. You have to live in a country with a monarchy to understand why they would never ever contact mere video mortals like us, even if you are known worldwide. They live by a royal protocol that dictates their lifestyle and which is an invisible barrier between them, the royal class, and us, the ordinary people. :)