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Steven Digges June 21st, 2013 12:30 PM

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Hey Mark,

No offence is intended. This is an awesome discussion board. I read your decision to go BR only as a personal choice, not a wise business decision. You guys are all clearly stating that the wedding market is not BluRay centered yet. So why make it your only offering? It is kind of like opening up an ice cream store and saying I am only going to sell vanilla because my freezer is not big enough for more offerings. You will sell some vanilla, but those that wanted chocolate will not be back.

I already said the artist comment came from your displeasure over the thought of "your work" being viewed under less than optimal conditions. I said earlier in this thread about how I feel, that we, as video producers must also be technicians. It behooves us to assist the less technically savvy in utilizing our product.

Yes I remember 1" C. Thank God I can not claim to have edited tape with a razor blade, but I was there. I have carried VTRs on a shoulder strap and shot with the attached camera head! JVC was huge on those things! I prefer dock-able to mean changing from a studio back to a tape recording back on a Sony broadcast camera. And of course, it is not tape anymore.


Steve

Adrian Tan June 22nd, 2013 02:24 AM

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Random thought... This is something I've only become aware of recently, so apologies if it's old news. Adobe Encore has reached end of life, and there's no new optical disc burning program in the creative suite (though you can still install Encore CS6).

http://www.adobe.com/products/encore/faq.html

Is the Encore CS6 version the final release of this product?
Yes. The trend in the video and broadcast industry is moving away from physical media distribution. The
future is in cloud and streaming content. Therefore we are focusing more on products that deliver to
streaming services. For example, Adobe Media Encoder and Adobe Premiere Pro CC include a new
feature allowing users to create iPad-ready video with QuickTime chapter markers. The Encore CS6
version will be the final release of this product.

Presumably, similar thinking is behind the fact that the built-in drives on Macs don't support BluRay, and the newest Macbooks lack internal DVD drives altogether.

Steven Digges June 22nd, 2013 01:52 PM

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Adrian,
I enjoy your posts because you often participate in the non technical aspect of our business. Here is some food for thought. And I am going to sound a little radical for the sake of conversation. But it is based on truth.
The things you mentioned above are true. Our software providers are headed in a cloud based only direction. Unfortunately for us that is an area of our industry that is not being designed for us the consumer of those services. It is a marketing dream for software providers. We are going to be forced into it because they want it, not me. Here is the catch:
It is their cloud, not yours, and never will be yours. But your own intellectual property and YOUR products will reside there under their control. You will not own software anymore. You will subscribe and pay dearly and often to use it. And with the cloud content servers, are you going to allow them to control your access to your product and property? That is what it is about! It is all getting wrapped up in a slick marketing package making it look like it is all for you, it is not. It is a complete reversal of the way everything has been in years past for all of us. We used to buy a disk of software they made and we owned a license to use it. Everything was in our hands. With the cloud, you have nothing, and they even have your work. But that’s OK. You may have signed up for that convenient automatic deduction from your checking account to ensure your service is never interrupted. Are you kidding me!!! Ultimately that is what they want! Control of your work, you will submit and pay over and over again while giving them the right to stick their hand in your bank account every month. You will have to; paying them will come before your house payment because you can’t make your house payment without access to your product. I know this is an extreme example, but think before you jump into the corporate abyss of subscription services!!!

Steve

Roger Gunkel June 22nd, 2013 04:51 PM

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Well said Steve +1

Roger

Taky Cheung June 22nd, 2013 09:57 PM

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I deliver DVD and BluRay in all package. On paper BluRay is am add on for $300. But i always give them out free, as in giving customer a discount.

Dvd and BluRay allows me to better deliver the final movie in a more presentable way. There menu (sometimes bi-lingual) navigation, chapters, closed captioning., behind the scene footage after the main movie. Overall a Hollywood dvd experience.

Since last year, i also oofer usb thumbdrive. It contains all the edited movie in .mp4. Then i also use encore to export adobe flash so client can view it on computer just like viewing a DVD.

I agree with some of you about distributing a professional designed package dvd is good marketing too. Brides can give a copy to their grandparents easily. Its not the same with USB thumbdrive given to grandmom.

Each state has its own state sales tax law. In general, if it's a service without tangible product delivered, AND NO TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP of media, there is no need to collect sales tax.

Chris Harding June 22nd, 2013 10:35 PM

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Hi Steve

Absolutely!! The biggest issue is you have no tangible product to present to the client (wedding or otherwise) for money already spent. I think people still expect a product at the end that reflects the amount of money they have paid and presenting them with a nicely presented disk set goes a long way to achieving this rather than just a link ...."Your wedding is here"

I always do them on online video (just the ceremony) for people who couldn't make it but that's just an extra not the primary product. Even with commercial promos, the client gets an online video BUT they still get a DVD with the clip in DVD format and also as an MP4 file as a "backup" but plenty will use the DVD at trade shows and showing clients direct.

Chris


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