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Believe it or not, some companies ONLY produce a 'highlights' film of the wedding day. In other
words there is no 'documentary' full length edit on their DVD. They are very popular in some locations.
Think of photography. Photography is capturing 'moments'...brides look through a photo album and
don't expect every second of their day documented. Yet they are willing to pay high price for photography.
Similarly lots of brides want something similar for their video. Something that everyone can sit and
watch and not get bored when it drags on into its 20th minute. Very high production values but shorter.

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Here at least many do, they want to have a picture taken of every guest that enters the venue, they do that by giving them an empty photoframe which the guests have to keep in front of them. I also see much more photogs having to stay until the after the first dance, not because they want to, most don't, but because the clients are expecting them to cover every single detail, the general mood and they want as much as possible pictures.

Over the past 10 years I have seen a clear shift to "highlight" photography only to "I want to have it all" kind of photography which you can compare to a wedding documentary.

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This is something that's driven me nuts over the last few years. I'm sure most of you have had that phone call, "we're getting married on xyz date and weren't going to have a video so we've no budget left - how cheap can you do it"?

Or, "We weren't going to have a video, so can you do it for free / cheap and then we'll recommend you to all our friends"?

Or, "We weren't going to have a video and have no money left. The guy down the street says he'll do it for £200 but we really like your videos, can you match him on price"?

Or, "We don't need you there all day, we're getting ready at 2pm, married at 3:30pm, speeches at 6:30pm, first dance at 7pm (yeah, right!) and it's a weekday in winter (read: it will be really dark the entire time!) so you won't have any other work on that day, so can we get a 75% discount?

Or..... oh I'm sure you have lots of your own. I must have turned away at least 50 offers of work now from people who think they deserve special pricing just in the last 12-18 months, so someone out there is getting lots of work at stupid prices! I've even stopped trying to make them understand how much work goes in to a full wedding film because they're simply not interested, they just want it all 'cheap'.

As a result, wedding videos are way down my work priority list now. I hope for the rest of you it's picking up again nicely.

Getting more awesome videos out on to the forums where Brides go would probably help the idea of videos being a more important part of the wedding planning process in every country. How we collectively go about doing that is open to discussion.

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Which is really bizarre considering that nowadays every guest is also taking photos with the camera in their smartphone.

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Roland Mihalszky is my Top favorite videographer! His style is different. Very good on details and blending his footage with the music which is very important! Check his other videos.

After reading this thread I start following "Cinemaworks Wedding Art Film". They are very good as well. So thanks for sharing and creating this topic!

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+1 for Bob Nicolas. Amazing work from them, always inspires me.

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Eventhough it's just a very small, almost negligible part, of the video, but I have no clue how they do their ringshot each time, it almost looks as if some after effects is involved or they just try that shot 20 times just to get the timings right. :)

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I just watched the Roland Mihalzsky movie. Beautifully shot. beautifully edited, but what use is it as a wedding record? I found myself flicking through it to find the interesting stuff!

Speaking as a potential customer rather than a wedding videographer, what we really want is Autie Mabel spilling trifle down her cleavage or cousin George getting his face slapped for propositioning one of the bridesmaids, a true record of that momentous day in our lives.

Of course, I may just be a bit old-fashioned! :)

Dave

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Haha I was thinking the same - at least 100 times surely! It's almost like CGI!

It's an incredible film, but I agree completely - I also skipped the film and it brings back the saying that I hear most videographers say - audio is more than half of the video. Sure, his shots hold up and if I'm watching from a cinematography perspective, I'm incredibly impressed, but when trying to learn about their day? I found it inadequate. Also, he jumps between having already seen the bride at the altar and before... I don't think he quite captures time-shifting. It should be progressive... whereas his brings the story forwards, then backwards etc. I don't think it's quite there... that said, it's a million times better than what I can do! Incredible footage.

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I agree with Dave

Sure the images are stunning and very cinematic and romantic BUT for a bride there is virtually no storyline. To me it's simply a very very good example of the videographer showing you. Look how great I am, I am the greatest but content wise for the bride she comes second best ...it's all about the videographer so as a portfolio it's awesome but as a wedding video that the bride wants for memories, to me it fails completely.

A very impressive piece to show off your skills but sadly the bride was purely the model here ...it would, of course, impress the pants off other videographers but if I was the bride I would have said "What about me ..who's day was it anyway.

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Anyone know who the song is by?

Pete

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Good thread guys.
That song is Colbie Caillat - I Do

Does anyone know any of the tracks from the other Bob nicholas video on this thread (Echo and Kim)?

Bob Nicholas work is fantastic. I think the work done by Roland Mihalsky, while obviously being very stylish and the guy is seriously talented. i think its risky stuff. It just seems to me if I took this arty type approach to the point that he has taken it (taking shots out of context and creating a new storyline basically) that I wouldnt be able to please all of the people all of the time. Thats the key to a successful video business. 100% percent client satisfaction to allow us to keep moving on and through the jobs to make as much money as possible.
Its so subjective and becomes the type of stuff that some people like and some people don't.

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Thought I recognised the voice - thanks

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"I do" from "Colbie Caillat" and "Hurricane" from "The Fray"

I wouldn't bother trying to use those for your video as they don't appear songs that you can license for that purpose.

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Actually Noa you can get that Colbie Caillet song on Songfreedom - The Fray I doubt very much you would get a licence for.

https://www.songfreedom.com/share/song/4611/I%20Do

Pete

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I've thought myself from time to time about producing just a highlights clip of a wedding.
Hovering around (as a single camera operator) getting lots of varied shots thoughout the day and within reason building the story as i go. The intention would be to produce a nice highlights clip (5- 10 mins) with editing only taking up a few hours of my time. Charge nearly what Im charging now. Wouldnt that be nice.
What wold be lost would be all that is real. Actual speeches etc but Im not sure the client would care.

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I wouldn't buy a song from songfreedom if they would pay me, they have popular and known songs in their catalogue which are supposed to be licensed for worldwide use but they aren't, they lied to me once but not a second time.

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My biggest hurdles I'm finding with taking my videos to the level of these guys/gals...

1: Skilled Second Shooters - I haven't really found too many people who could say, go out and get these incredible shots without me having to storyboard them out or something.
2: Faking it - I find it hard to believe all these amazing videos don't do a lot of "hey hold on, lets redo that one more time, give me more smile okay"
3: Charging for it - Having all the extra gear and skilled hands to use it is going to get expensive.

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Whilst these videos are great to look at I'd imagine they represent only 1% of wedding videos. They are super over produced and that's not possible or desired in most cases. If 3000$ is more or less a yearly wage in the Philippines then imagine what you could do with the equivalent in you country! For around 12000 euros I'd send out 3 cameramen and a sound guy and I'd just direct! Sounds great!
Back to the real world!
I'd be really interested to see what people are achieving for more modest budgets. Single shooter weddings, how to get enough quality footage to make a 40 min doc and a 5 min trailer, etc. Something like a list of top end video producers, mid end video producers and budget producers.
And maybe a list of 30min plus video edits.

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I think that's a great idea Andrew, you might start a seperate thread for that in the "SPC - Single Person Crew" category? Although I don't consider myself a top end videographer at all I wouldn't mind sharing a film with additional explanation what I focus on at the wedding and what I use to achieve that.

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And I would love to read that and others like it!

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I have went mainly to doing exactly this instead of shooting every minute of everything
and giving them a 1 hour ceremony edited between a static wide and my roaming camera,
I now do 'wedding day highlight films'. Way more fun, get to be more creative, less stress
about Aunt May or that one crazy bridesmaid stepping into your shot. You are trying to
catch short moments that can be made into a highlights video. I still try and get audio from
bride and groom as you can underlay some video with their vows or similar sometimes.
Also can do interviews with B&G beforehand and other family members if you want.
I charge just as much as before. And as a single man company, it's easier to film 'highlights'
than to try to capture everything from multiple angles and so on. For me, I was finding that
my clients loved the highlights video, shared it all over Facebook, which got me booking
requests from their friends,and one even had a 'showing'of her video on a fancy home projection
system and invited me, made popcorn and told everyone there how awesome I was. But nothing ever
was given for feedback about the 'documentary edit' except to say that grandma may like
to watch it 'someday'. So I thought just going totally highlights film would work in my market.
But every market is different and judging by what I hear in this forum, it wouldn't fly in
some parts of the world. You have to know your own market well enough to have an
educated guess on that one. Listen to what your clients 'tell' you through feedback
and so on. Pay attention to what they like.

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Maybe now is the time to do it!

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1. I agree. Very hard to find.