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Osmany Tellez · April 23rd, 2015, 07:22 AM

Hi there.

I been debating in my head what to get and i thought I will try to get some help here.

Might be time for new camera..a DSLR just because we want to be able to do photo and video and don't have a large budget.

we own, 5d mark ii and t3i, and a couple of expensive L canon lenses, we could stay like this but don't want to use the t3i anymore, 5d is sort of old so we think might be time to upgrade.

I was looking at the 7d mark ii, been reading a lot, weird don't see more people talking about it in this forum.
anyways..seems like the debate is:

1- get a 7d mark ii
2- get a 6d ( and get something extra)
3-stay like we are and wait for 6d mark ii
4- something different.

seems like 6d mark ii wont be until 2016, 6d seems to be a good choice witch favors photo, and 7d mark ii will favor video.

what will you do?

thanks for all your help.

PD: right now we are doing more work with photo than video, althought we want to keep both up to date.

Robert Benda · April 23rd, 2015, 08:07 AM

Anytime I get the itch for a new camera I think of what I want it to do. What do you want from yours?

For me, I really like the facial tracking auto-focus on our 70Ds for weddding prep and ceremony (or other decent lighting) and want my next cameras to have it. It makes my life easier. (we also have 5d Mark ii for darker spaces).

Then you'd have to consider your 4K timeline. I'd think I can do without it for at another 2 years, but wouldn't buy a new body without it, unless I had to.

Gary Huff · April 23rd, 2015, 08:14 AM

Don't even consider the 6D, it's crap for video, and the 6D Mark II will be a long time in coming.

7D Mark II is your best bet from that list.

Greg Boston · April 23rd, 2015, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Huff

7D Mark II is your best bet from that list.

If he was going to go with an APS-C camera, the 70D is better for video shooting, IMHO.

-gb-

Osmany Tellez · April 23rd, 2015, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Huff

Don't even consider the 6D, it's crap for video, and the 6D Mark II will be a long time in coming.

7D Mark II is your best bet from that list.

Thanks for the advice Gary. I am very close to pulling the trigger on the 7D mark ii.

Osmany Tellez · April 23rd, 2015, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Boston

If he was going to go with an APS-C camera, the 70D is better for video shooting, IMHO.

-gb-

Hi, Greg.

Don't think i wasn't considering the 70d as well...but more for the price than anything else..and just read magic lantern doing raw with it...

but i didn't think it was better than the 7d mark ii..will you mind to elaborate ?

thanks for advice

Michael Silverman · April 23rd, 2015, 07:03 PM

If you're looking to replace the 5D2 with a 7D2 I don't think you'll really gain much except the autofocus and 1080p60. You will lose full frame and I don't think you will gain much (if any) low light ability.

The 7D2 will be a nice upgrade from the t3i so it would make a lot of sense to sell the t3i and buy a 7D2. You could then shoot a few weddings and see how the two cameras work together. If they meet your clients' needs and you're happy with them, then just stick with the 5D2 and 7D2.

Once Canon release the 5D4 then it may make more sense to sell the 5D2 and purchase one of those. I know people that are still shooting video and stills with a 5D2 and 7D1 and they make lots of money and have many happy clients.

Robert Benda · April 24th, 2015, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osmany Tellez

Hi, Greg.

Don't think i wasn't considering the 70d as well...but more for the price than anything else..and just read magic lantern doing raw with it...

but i didn't think it was better than the 7d mark ii..will you mind to elaborate ?

thanks for advice

I don't know about better but I'm trying to see if the 7d uses a touchscreen. The 70D lets you touch the person's face, then it will track them. Its big issue is probably that its usable iso is capped at about 1600. Maybe 2500.

I've been looking at a few 7d videos to see if its autofocus uses a touchscreen or not. The usable iso would be good to know, too.

Brian David Melnyk · April 24th, 2015, 07:57 AM

Canon 70D vs 7D Mark II - Our Analysis

Steve Bleasdale · April 24th, 2015, 11:44 AM

[QUOTE=Gary Huff;1884293]Don't even consider the 6D, it's crap for video, and the 6D Mark II will be a long time in coming.

6d crap? could have fooled me they are brilliant...

Kevin Fonash · April 24th, 2015, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Huff

Don't even consider the 6D, it's crap for video, and the 6D Mark II will be a long time in coming.

7D Mark II is your best bet from that list.

Please enlighten me on why the 6D is "crap" for video...?

Osmany Tellez · April 25th, 2015, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian David Melnyk

Canon 70D vs 7D Mark II - Our Analysis

From what I see it looks like no many people are using the 7d mark ii. is that right?

Scott Hayes · April 30th, 2015, 05:15 AM

sell all your Canon junk and head on over to the Samsung camp. The NX1 is a beast for video.

Gary Huff · April 30th, 2015, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Hayes

The NX1 is a beast for video.

I haven't seen any footage that demonstrates the NX1 quality jump to the point where I'm willing to head back into a transcoding workflow in order to edit any of the footage.

Scott Hayes · April 30th, 2015, 05:43 AM

Gary, I have been editing it for the past month, and side by side with the 5D3 footage, its got better color, and much sharper. I can see it. Sadly, clients won't notice it once it's graded, and it cuts together seamlessly with the Canon stuff. Since I shoot mostly event stuff, Ill start the transcode at night after I transfer cards, usually takes about 15-20 minutes using EditReady.

April 23rd, 2015, 07:22 AM	#1
Osmany Tellez Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: Panama City Posts: 190	now that NAB is done. (new camara) Hi there. I been debating in my head what to get and i thought I will try to get some help here. Might be time for new camera..a DSLR just because we want to be able to do photo and video and don't have a large budget. we own, 5d mark ii and t3i, and a couple of expensive L canon lenses, we could stay like this but don't want to use the t3i anymore, 5d is sort of old so we think might be time to upgrade. I was looking at the 7d mark ii, been reading a lot, weird don't see more people talking about it in this forum. anyways..seems like the debate is: 1- get a 7d mark ii 2- get a 6d ( and get something extra) 3-stay like we are and wait for 6d mark ii 4- something different. seems like 6d mark ii wont be until 2016, 6d seems to be a good choice witch favors photo, and 7d mark ii will favor video. what will you do? thanks for all your help. PD: right now we are doing more work with photo than video, althought we want to keep both up to date. __________________ FCPS2, G5 Dual core 2.0 GHz, 2.5 Ram, Dell 2408, M-audio DX4, DVX 100A, Sachtler DV6, Manfrotto 561B, Zoom H-4, RE-50, AT890 shotgun, steadicam Merlin,

April 23rd, 2015, 08:07 AM	#2
Robert Benda Trustee Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Crookston, MN Posts: 1,353	Re: now that NAB is done. (new camara) Anytime I get the itch for a new camera I think of what I want it to do. What do you want from yours? For me, I really like the facial tracking auto-focus on our 70Ds for weddding prep and ceremony (or other decent lighting) and want my next cameras to have it. It makes my life easier. (we also have 5d Mark ii for darker spaces). Then you'd have to consider your 4K timeline. I'd think I can do without it for at another 2 years, but wouldn't buy a new body without it, unless I had to.

April 23rd, 2015, 08:14 AM	#3
Gary Huff Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 2,006	Re: now that NAB is done. (new camara) Don't even consider the 6D, it's crap for video, and the 6D Mark II will be a long time in coming. 7D Mark II is your best bet from that list.

April 23rd, 2015, 07:03 PM	#7
Michael Silverman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Charlottesville Posts: 255	Re: now that NAB is done. (new camara) If you're looking to replace the 5D2 with a 7D2 I don't think you'll really gain much except the autofocus and 1080p60. You will lose full frame and I don't think you will gain much (if any) low light ability. The 7D2 will be a nice upgrade from the t3i so it would make a lot of sense to sell the t3i and buy a 7D2. You could then shoot a few weddings and see how the two cameras work together. If they meet your clients' needs and you're happy with them, then just stick with the 5D2 and 7D2. Once Canon release the 5D4 then it may make more sense to sell the 5D2 and purchase one of those. I know people that are still shooting video and stills with a 5D2 and 7D1 and they make lots of money and have many happy clients.

April 24th, 2015, 07:57 AM	#9
Brian David Melnyk Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Winnipeg Canada Posts: 532	Re: now that NAB is done. (new camara) Canon 70D vs 7D Mark II - Our Analysis

April 24th, 2015, 11:44 AM	#10
Steve Bleasdale Trustee Join Date: May 2010 Location: England liverpool Posts: 1,343	Re: now that NAB is done. (new camara) [QUOTE=Gary Huff;1884293]Don't even consider the 6D, it's crap for video, and the 6D Mark II will be a long time in coming. 6d crap? could have fooled me they are brilliant...

April 30th, 2015, 05:15 AM	#13
Scott Hayes Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 692	Re: now that NAB is done. (new camara) sell all your Canon junk and head on over to the Samsung camp. The NX1 is a beast for video.

April 30th, 2015, 05:43 AM	#15
Scott Hayes Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 692	Re: now that NAB is done. (new camara) Gary, I have been editing it for the past month, and side by side with the 5D3 footage, its got better color, and much sharper. I can see it. Sadly, clients won't notice it once it's graded, and it cuts together seamlessly with the Canon stuff. Since I shoot mostly event stuff, Ill start the transcode at night after I transfer cards, usually takes about 15-20 minutes using EditReady.