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D.R. Gates March 31st, 2017 01:52 AM
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I'm a little surprised with the animosity against photographers, but then I'm sure there are plenty of them who wouldn't want to see a videographer either. The bottom line is, we're there to work for the client and that involves coexisting with the other vendors who are also working for the same client. It doesn't have to be some silly battle where you get your panties in a bunch.

Roger Gunkel March 31st, 2017 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by D.R. Gates (Post 1929864)
I'm a little surprised with the animosity against photographers, but then I'm sure there are plenty of them who wouldn't want to see a videographer either. The bottom line is, we're there to work for the client and that involves coexisting with the other vendors who are also working for the same client. It doesn't have to be some silly battle where you get your panties in a bunch.
I don't have a problem working with other photographers with the odd exception. Most are professional and are aware that we need to be there aswell, but they need to set up poses and arrange things their own way, so we work around them. When we are doing the combined package either dual or solo, we are controlling the whole thing and find it so much more straight forward as we can work in the most convenient way to us.

Roger

Nigel Barker March 31st, 2017 05:38 AM
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A basic problem with photographers is that most (all?) like to get in close while taking their photos. They also keep moving about looking for different angles & shots. This means that they are in the videographer's field of view far to often messing up the images. In general videographers are standing back & often static.

During the ceremony or speeches for example even though the participants are staying in one place the photographer(s) will be bobbing about all over the place looking for variety in their shots. It's very distracting & is one reason why celebrants get hacked off with photographers.

It will be rare that the videographer with their equipment appearing in shot is an issue for a photographer whereas the opposite is often true.

Roger Gunkel March 31st, 2017 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Nigel Barker (Post 1929868)
A basic problem with photographers is that most (all?) like to get in close while taking their photos. They also keep moving about looking for different angles & shots. This means that they are in the videographer's field of view far to often messing up the images. In general videographers are standing back & often static.

During the ceremony or speeches for example even though the participants are staying in one place the photographer(s) will be bobbing about all over the place looking for variety in their shots. It's very distracting & is one reason why celebrants get hacked off with photographers.

It will be rare that the videographer with their equipment appearing in shot is an issue for a photographer whereas the opposite is often true.
Too true Nigel! We always give priority to photographers due to the way photography needs to be done, but it is so much easier when we are doing both ourselves. My wife did video only and worked with a photographer and two assistants at her last wedding. Being a photographer herself, she was amazed that at all times, both assistants were taking the same shots as the main photographer, even during the preps, groups and romantics. What was the point of that unless it was a lack of confidence, it certainly made it challenging for her getting the video.

Roger

Chris Harding March 31st, 2017 06:29 AM
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I had two today that were a bit of a pain! We were just live streaming a ceremony and they were ducking and diving around the couple. Really, do you have to rush in front of the bridal party walking in and drop to your knees and take a low angle shot so the bride nearly trips over you. I don't mind them in the shot now and again but seriously when you leave plenty of space for them to walk behind your camera why do they purposely walk right in front and across it? Then again on yesterday's wedding the photographer was a real gem ... he worked with me not against me and I would gladly work with him any time.

To get to Roger's answer it's all to do with co-operation so at least if you supply the photographer you know you won't have any hassles. We don't have any photographer animosity we simple have animosity against arrogant "so called professionals" who treat the wedding as their own and not the brides. What they never realise is when they get into situations where it's all about their shot they not only spoil the video but also the view of all the guests too!

David Banner March 31st, 2017 10:42 AM
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I didn't mean to sound like I had animosity towards photographers. I haven't had a conflict with any in over 20 years but...I always give them priority and work around them so I make it easy on them.
And I work around them sometimes blatantly getting in front of shots and going in close and all the rest.
I just deal with it and work around it.
I'm taller than they are so often I can shoot over them.

But if your company is doing both photos and videos then you can work better as a team, having a system to get it done smoothly. :)

David Banner March 31st, 2017 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Roger Gunkel (Post 1929845)
Hi David,

Not having to work around a photographer makes like so much easier. If we only have one wedding on, I work with my wife and we can both take video and photographs. So brides preps can be covered by my wife while I am setting up cameras for the ceremony or taking shots of the guys if they want it. She will also shoot the video during the group photos and arrange the dress, bouquets etc.

We are also both capable of working on the combined package solo, but not to be recommended unless you are very experienced at both and have a fast setup and breakdown system. Solo is a lot of pressure so we enjoy working together as it lightens the load. We also have total confidence in each other's video and photo work.

I had a conversation with a vicar today regarding a wedding in his church this coming Saturday. He is quite happy to have it videoed but is adamant that there will only be stills from the back and no flash. I will be at the front filming in 4K, so it will be another instance of stills from the video rather than none at all from the front and just Claire taking stills from the back.

Roger
Hi Roger. That sounds like a good team plan :) Thank you

Courtney Baynes April 9th, 2017 04:39 AM
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Yesterday was my first time filming a wedding and I must say that the photographers there were very aggressive and obnoxious. It seemed like they were trying to control everything. I had to be a bit stern just to get some decent footage. I wouldn't mind not dealing with a photographer at a wedding. This experience left a bad taste in my mouth.

Steven Shea April 9th, 2017 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Courtney Baynes (Post 1930413)
Yesterday was my first time filming a wedding and I must say that the photographers there were very aggressive and obnoxious. It seemed like they were trying to control everything. I had to be a bit stern just to get some decent footage. I wouldn't mind not dealing with a photographer at a wedding. This experience left a bad taste in my mouth.
That's a drag. I can assure you there are plenty of pleasant ones out there though!

Chris Harding April 9th, 2017 07:12 PM
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Sadly we get those now and again at weddings. Yesterday I did a live ceremony broadcast ceremony and they had their own photographer ... he never showed for the rehearsal and on the day I never saw him smile, talk to anyone or even greet anyone ...however he wasn't arrogant but did walk in front of my camera once (this was a mobile streaming setup so it's a dolly, tripod, audio and network stuff and hardly classed as "I didn't see your camera there" )

I find the guys that take the effort to greet you with a smile and are prepared to chat are usually the good ones. The arrogant ones are the ones that totally ignore the fact that it's a wedding and walk around with a honking great telephoto lens that's about 18" long then proceed to shoot a few feet away from the couple ..I never understood that but I'm sure it's all for show!!

Take the good with the bad but usually there are more good ones than bad ones!!


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