Why are I worrying? at DVinfo.net
DV Info Net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Special Interest Areas > Wedding / Event Videography Techniques

Wedding / Event Videography Techniques
Shooting non-repeatable events: weddings, recitals, plays, performances...

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old May 19th, 2018, 06:13 AM   #1
Trustee
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Romsey, UK
Posts: 1,261
Why are I worrying?

Just seen snippets of the Royal Wedding as I work filming one of my own. Slight shake to the footage of one of the readings, blown highlights on a shot down the aisle and some focus issues I thought I saw as they exited. Plus some awkward angles imposed no doubt by church restrictions.

And to think I worry about these issues myself when filming a Wedding. :)
Steve Burkett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 19th, 2018, 10:32 AM   #2
Trustee
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: London, UK
Posts: 1,393
Re: Why are I worrying?

Yep ... I was critiquing the shots as well. But I have to say ... what a magnificent venue Windsor castle is. Does any one know if they allow regular plebs to use it for wedding photos ?
James Manford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 20th, 2018, 01:12 PM   #3
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: LIncolnshire, UK
Posts: 2,213
Re: Why are I worrying?

Nice to see that with all the money and expertise plus goodness knows how many cameras, major broadcasters still make the same mistakes and have the same problems we do. The ones that Steve mentioned, then there was also the classic of a beautiful closeup of the Brides's mother, just as Harry's out of focus head blocked the view. After a few seconds of hoping he would move the other way, the director had to switch to another camera.

Some of the burnt out, under exposed and poor white balance shots were all things we experience regularly and learn to correct quickly. Perhaps they could have got some experienced wedding videographers involved. :-)

Overall though a pretty good job given the difficulties involved.

Roger
Roger Gunkel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 20th, 2018, 06:33 PM   #4
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 8,441
Re: Why are I worrying?

Hi Roger

You have to remember that with content as good as that it really doesn't matter if a few errors creep in!! Content is King!

I remember many years ago someone wanted to know the value of a photo of the Queen's Corgi falling into the Thames with Her Majesty looking on in horror ... the answer was "a fortune" ... second question was what if it was badly composed and out of focus ... answer ?? still worth a fortune!!
Chris Harding is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 21st, 2018, 04:49 AM   #5
Major Player
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Reading Berkshire UK
Posts: 871
Re: Why are I worrying?

I've only seen a few bits as I was working Saturday and yesterday and its the outdoor clips I'm referring to - yes the blown highlights were noticeable to me as well - but it was an exceptionally bright day and I wonder if any cam could have coped with such a wide dynamic range. You see that plenty of times in professional travel shows. Plus the fabric in many white wedding dresses have brighteners incorporated and this may blow what might otherwise be an acceptable dynamic range. Other sore points for me with regard to photography when I need to use fill-flash (not H&M's wedding obviously) are when brides do their own makeup or inexperienced makup artists do it and reflections / specular highlights on the face can look terrible; plus the groomsmen who wear waistcoats with reflective fabric thereby losing the detail.

Pete
Peter Riding is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 21st, 2018, 12:38 PM   #6
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Lowestoft - UK
Posts: 3,823
Re: Why are I worrying?

The pro camera folk who work on jobs like this have been looking at the issues people who know, noticed - and much comes down to some very odd direction. Lots of cuts on moving cameras that are already near the end of their travel, which last a second or two then have to stop. Crane shots that are a bit incongruous - and worst of all, camera positions that mean crossing the line - always a BBC no-no in OBs for years happened so often, in one shot the car is going left to right, then right to left, the reversed again. It is jarring and confusing. The consensus was ITV managed the day better than the BBC for once. Mind you, the camera work itself was pretty decent from every source - it seemed to be what they did with it that was a bit strange.
Paul R Johnson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 21st, 2018, 12:54 PM   #7
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Fareham, UK
Posts: 154
Re: Why are I worrying?

I watched in UHD on Sky and noticed all of the above problems, which are magnified on a big screen. But when it worked it was magnificent - the jib shots of the cars passing with the castle in the background were just perfect.
Tony Neal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 22nd, 2018, 07:09 AM   #8
Wrangler
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Posts: 11,755
Re: Why are I worrying?

Sorry, this is off-topic but brings up something I've wondered about for a long time. Here in the US we would say "why am I worrying", or alternately "why are we worrying". I notice this sort of thing frequently; for example someone from the UK might say "Sony are introducing a new camera" where in the US we would say "Sony is introducing a new camera".

It's been a long time since I've studied grammar, but I believe this reflects the difference between the plural and singular. Is this correct usage in the UK, or just some sort of tradition? Or maybe in this case, it's just a typo?

Not trying to be critical here... just trying to understand the difference between American English and "real" English. :)
Boyd Ostroff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 22nd, 2018, 07:15 AM   #9
Equal Opportunity Offender
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 2,790
Re: Why are I worrying?

In the UK they speak the Queen's English whereas in the USA you have the President's English.

(Okay, that was funnier when George Bush was in.)

Andrew
Andrew Smith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 22nd, 2018, 07:20 AM   #10
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: LIncolnshire, UK
Posts: 2,213
Re: Why are I worrying?

I think Steve simply made a typo when putting in the title and didn't realise until he posted when of course you can't correct it. I'm sure Steve will comment.

The grammar in this instance Boyd would be the same both sides of the pond :-)

Roger
Roger Gunkel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 22nd, 2018, 09:57 AM   #11
Wrangler
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Posts: 11,755
Re: Why are I worrying?

Thanks Roger, that makes sense. But what about my other example? I see this frequently on various sites - using plural with a company, such as "Sony are entering a new market" where in the US we would say "Sony is entering a new market".

Perhaps this is the different between considering a company as a single entity vs. a group of people (in other words, "he" vs. "they")?
Boyd Ostroff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 22nd, 2018, 10:11 AM   #12
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 9,426
Re: Why are I worrying?

Quote:
Perhaps this is the different
You can also say; "Perhaps this is different" or "Perhaps this is the difference" but I could be mistaken as American English is not my first language. :)
Noa Put is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 22nd, 2018, 10:23 AM   #13
Wrangler
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Posts: 11,755
Re: Why are I worrying?

Haha Noa... sorry, that was a typo! Should have been "this is the difference". :)
Boyd Ostroff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 22nd, 2018, 10:53 AM   #14
Major Player
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Brandon, England
Posts: 435
Re: Why are I worrying?

Quote:
Perhaps this is the different between considering a company as a single entity vs. a group of people (in other words, "he" vs. "they")?
That's exactly it Boyd.

The old saying that we are two countries separated by a common language isn't far off. I know if I read a book by an American author, quite often I have to stop and think "what the hell does that mean?" :-)
Dave Baker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 22nd, 2018, 12:26 PM   #15
Trustee
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Romsey, UK
Posts: 1,261
Re: Why are I worrying?

Okay, I wrote the message on my phone at a Wedding and my phone has these really small keys, so sometimes I don't always key in the correct thing. However in this case, I may well have been undecided with either the title 'Why am I worrying' or 'Why are we Worrying' and ended up using a combination of the two. Be fair, I was on day 3 of 4 days of Weddings. I can't be accurate all the time. :)

As for Sony 'is' and Sony 'are'. We tend to view Companies in the plural, other Countries can view them as the singular. That said, I've used both tenses I dare say when describing Companies. But then I've watched too much American TV.....
Steve Burkett is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY USA

Scan Computers Int. Ltd.
+44 0871-472-4747
Bolton, Lancashire UK


DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Special Interest Areas > Wedding / Event Videography Techniques

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:34 PM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2021 The Digital Video Information Network