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Sony and to a degree Panasonic just cannot do the magentas - everything comes out plus/minus magenta - so you see live a bluer purple colour, but the cameras don't. It happens on one of my Pentax DSLRs too. The older one produces very much what it looks like to the eye. The newer one has the same problems as many video cameras - the mix of red and blue LEDs just equals a magenta colour and there's no variation. Solid blue is fine, but as soon as the red LEDs creep in it becomes magenta, where it stays until the blue is almost totally absent then goes red quite quickly. Strange!

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I guess thats what I meant. blue becomes purple or vice versa...I dont shoot these often enough to remember which direction it goes. Makes me wonder why the lighting person would choose that color knowing that there would be cameras at the show. Especially as they often project the camera’s feed to imag.

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Because to the audience it looks stunning. I do exactly this. For every music event we do I ask the client who is the primary audience? The 1400 who paid to see the show, or the video crew - who invariably for my sort of events arrive late in the day AFTER the lighting is plotted and programmed. If the client says the audience, then the video people take what their poorly designed equipment captures. If the client says the video is important then I provide the lighting guy a monitor and ask the video people for a feed WHEN HE IS PROGRAMMING - it's too late to change colours 30 mins before showtime.

Sometimes we will do lights, sound and video and we plan the audio feeds, make sure colours are Sony friendly and the right contrast and the cameras are in the best places. When they want somebody else to do video it's fine with us. We make sure it's in the advance docs we send that we NEED the video people on site from say 2pm. We then work with them. Most make excuses, then complain it's too blue.

The truth is that LED is not new, and the saturated mono-frequency colour spikes look wonderful, but the camera manafacturers have done little to make cameras work with them. They're not going away. LED gives the lighting designer a palette full of saturated colours - like the deep blue. With tungsten lamps, Congo blue has less than 5% of every 1000W coming out of the other side of the gel - so bright blue stages were impossible without MegaWatts of lighting. With 16 million colours (OK that's not 16 million you could see with the naked eye) the lighting people can do amazing things. It's scandalous the manufacturers of VERY expensive cameras cannot make them able to resolve them properly after all these years. I've stuck with JVC for video because the colour rendition closely matches my eyes.

I send what they give me to projectors or LED screens. I take an SDI and plug it in. Not my department if they haven't bothered to be on the team. We have video monitors in our lighting control position. Very often when video come in demanding the audio feeds they also forgot, I hand them a cable and ask them to squirt some video down it for the lighting op. Often then look at it and ask why does he want that? Can't he see? Then during the show somebody comes and asks for the blue to be turned down, or the red made more pink. We smile ........ and say we'll try, which usually doesn't happen because changing colours mid show just isn't going to happen.

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Paul I don't think anyone is blaming you. Just more events are going to led and the color ones are very popular. Often we are called in to film an event and we don't know there's a problem until the event starts. Even if we knew ahead of time it's often not feasible to change the light setup. Most events are not the made for tv type and it makes sense the audience should come first. But it still doesn't make our lives any easier.

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Why has covid suddenly become a chat about LED lights? Did something get merged?

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It all started when someone mentioned a camera they wanted but were waiting to buy now 'cause of the cancellations, and how someone's older camera struggled with certain lighting conditions.

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The irony here is that certain lighting conditions can be used to induce a corona effect, thus bringing it (forgive the pun) full circle. :-)

Andrew

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Would it be even more ironic if this thread went viral?

(Dodges tomatoes)

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Well - the latest Covid-19 victim is my poor old mum. 88 years old and she'd been diabetic for over 60 years, she'd had 2 heart attacks, kidney failure and breast cancer - then Covid-19 comes along and wiped her out this morning. Up until this morning, the numbers of people who have died due to the virus were just numbers - it's got personal now!

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Sorry to hear the bad news Paul, you and your family are in my thoughts and in my prayers.

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So sorry for your loss Paul.

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That’s awful. Sorry to hear.

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Paul I’m sorry to hear the bad news. Remember your not alone.

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Postponements now right through until September.

Just put my songfreedom subscription on hold and a few other bits like that. No point in paying when I have no need for them.

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I've not renewed my public liability insurance - no public to keep safe and while not a lot, everything helps with zero income.

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I created a live Zoho calendar and sent a link to all my couples to refer to this when rescheduling. So far only 1 couple has cancelled, and the rest (up to August) have rescheduled to 2021. I feel this is the best way at least they can pick a date they know I am free rather than throwing a date at me I can't do and me losing the wedding

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Same here - and my Soundstripe was up for renewal in April - decided to wait on that as well

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Well this was weird??


After years of the business, struggling for leads etc, I always kinda was a weekend warrior, I made the decision recently to stop. For a time, a long time (year?). Haven't advertised in ages anyway. Just now I get a call, 'Hi etc etc'

Him: "Do you do 8k weddings?"
Me: "8k?" (Could've been more prepared to say yes, but Im not sure I can commit to such an upgrade, secondly pricing...)
Him: "Yeah"
Me: "No, I do not"
Him "4k?"
Me "Yes I do"
Him " How many frames per second?"
Me "60"
Him:: "Uhm, ok. Can we bring our own camera?"
Me "As in, like I'll shoot on it and then edit it?"
Him "Yeah, like you frame the shots and all"
Me: (Realizing this might be a bad road to go down with a client while I'm considering checking out of the industry) "Uhm, could I ask when the wedding is?"
Him "In November"
Me (Being honest) "Uhh I think I'm not shooting weddings this year."
Him "Ok"


I ended up giving him a phone # to someone I know who's pretty good & does good cinematic work, I just don't know that that's a client I want to work with. Years ago, like 2014 I was asked about 4k, when it was brand knew, and I said I don't & bride replied I needed to keep up with the times etc. 8ks a bit too early, and its not just a camera its a computer to edit it.

Strange, kinda late to be booking a high priced video for a wedding, although I'm sure plenty are looking for jobs. (I work in video streaming now/webinars, been here for about 2 years, so I'm content here).

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We're a company that has been in existence a couple of years, we're called Deaf Sports Media, and provide a Live and Recorded Service to Deaf Sport.

Since all sport was cancelled on 23rd March we've had no business at all, but have this week had a potential booking, for 7th November, for a Deaf Basketball Final, that was postponed in April.

Now, Disabled Sport is exempted under the England, United Kingdom, rule of 6 people, so the event can take place under the previous ruling of no spectators and 30 people, including athletes, coaches, and officials.

The issue we have is when both teams of 12, their coaches, and officials are counted, that brings the total up to 30 already, what about us?

Now I understand that Live Media coverage of Elite Sport is given exempted Key Worker status under the Covid Laws here, so maybe we don't need to be included within the total of 30 people, but we're having trouble confirming this with anyone, and not only that, along with Social Distancing and transmission of virus prevention, there's some 14 day isolation clause post event, that if applied to us would make life a bit difficult.

I realise this is not a cancellation (unless we're forced to do it ourselves), and its specific to England, UK, but does anyone know a link for definitive information on this exempted Key Worker status? All new to us, and a Google doesn't bring anything up that is legally definitive, particularly as we could as a company be subject to a £10,000 fine for breaching Covid Legislation.

Any help you guys can give on this we'd appreciate it.

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Since you are concerned about a legal issue where the wrong decision might have serious consequences, have you considered consulting an attorney?

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Wayne - are you a member of BECTU? Or even if not, they're a pretty decent union for TV, broadcast and events, and I bet they would be able to give you the definitive answer you need.