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David Rice September 21st, 2007 06:47 PM

Going back to 7d.
 
Too many crashes in pro 8, I'm going back to 7d.

Hugh Mobley September 21st, 2007 07:16 PM

I am using both, When I get so PO'd at 8 I start using 7 again,

Mark Kovalcson September 21st, 2007 07:27 PM

I found it kept crashing when I was using the new pro titler.

Is it unstable throughout?

Perrone Ford September 21st, 2007 07:56 PM

Interesting. I haven't had any crashes at all. I haven't tried the titler yet though.

David Rice September 21st, 2007 08:04 PM

Pro 8 doesn't like some of my 6 & 7 files. I have had crashes on the timeline, and while rendering mpeg files. Pro 8 also crashed when I tried capturing from my Canon Hv20 in DV mode.

I'll try it again after the next update.......

George Judds September 22nd, 2007 03:17 AM

Going back to 7d.
 
This seems a bit strange to me, I have used Vegas 8 almost every day since the 1st day it was release and have used the ProType Titling to do some very difficult animation schemes - and NOT once has Vegas 8 nor DVD Architect 4.5 ever encountered a glitch, nor has it ever quit in the middle of a project, not even during a 40min project I was working on. Most of the time, I work in HD and still have had no problems with Vegas 8. I wouldn’t even consider going back to 7, although 7 was great too.

Maybe I got one of their bug free copies... ;)

Good luck!

Mark Kovalcson September 22nd, 2007 04:33 AM

Is anyone else running it on Windows 2003 Server? I realize it is not on the supported OS list, but I have been running Vegas 5 on my 2003 very reliably on my Server laptop for quite some time.

On the good side the MainConcepts MP4 codec appears to be very good. I assume this is the AVC H.264 codec that they included which has iPod video presets. I'll test it on my wife's iPod Video soon. What I have rendered with it so far looks very clean and detailed.

The new AppleTV only supports a single 720p HD standard and I didn't see a preset for that.

It is interesting that it supports FLAC. I've been using Apple's Lossless codec on my iTunes, but FLAC seems to be getting lots of generic support.

I also haven't seen it crash "yet" while playing with 3D composting in the two days I've had it installed. As always installing the new version didn't uninstall my previous version so there is fall back.

Vincent Croce September 22nd, 2007 08:24 AM

Been running V8 since it came out and not a hiccup with any of it. Used the titler, rendered, opened v6 and v7 projects with it and it is rock solid for me.
Haven't tried it on Vista yet, so I may find problems there...

Jack Zhang September 22nd, 2007 08:28 AM

Everyone, try the dynamic RAM to 0MB and rendering threads to 1 trick before you uninstall. If it still crashes, then Vegas 8 sure is buggy.

George Judds September 22nd, 2007 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincent Croce (Post 748371)
Been running V8 since it came out and not a hiccup with any of it. Used the titler, rendered, opened v6 and v7 projects with it and it is rock solid for me.
Haven't tried it on Vista yet, so I may find problems there...

I'm running Vegas 8 on Vista x64 Ultimate Edition, Intel Quad-Core, smooooth as silk! Haven't and a single problem, as of yet, almost 2 weeks now. Just finished HDV from timeline back to tape, no errors. purrfect ;)

Ian Stark September 24th, 2007 12:23 PM

Likewise, to echo the non-crashers, been running it since day one with no problems. XP Pro SP2, Quadcore, 2Gb.

BUT I really do not like the way the new titler flashes at me every time I do something. What's all that about? And I'm convinced the envelopes are a bit dodgy. Just added opacity keyframes as the last 'effect' in a stack (after h/blur and y offset) but damned if it works. No problem if I put the opacity envelope in first though. Sounds wrong to me.

Paul Fierlinger September 24th, 2007 12:52 PM

My experience with VP8 is odd... I had a large number of crashes during the first week or so; when I scrubbed fast, clicked quickly through tabs, or opened up far apart regions within a 10 minute timeline. Then, over the period of less than a week,the crashes diminished and dwindled down to none and there it remains, at zero.

There is nothing I have changed in my way of working since V 6 through 7e; in my settings, in my timelines -- except to add new clips every day. It's as if the new Vegas needed a run-in breaking period.

Ian Stark September 24th, 2007 12:56 PM

Well would you believe it. Two minutes after I put up the last post the bloody thing crashed on me - while I was using the titler!!!! First time! Ha! Should learn not to speak too soon.

Roll on 8.0a . . .

Hugh Mobley September 24th, 2007 01:03 PM

for now I give up, can't get V8 (on my laptop) to run after I save cineform avi to veg. file then open, or try, to open again, Will use V7e until sony gets it together. I have never seen so many problems, yet some, including my office computer, seem to ok for the time being.

Ian Stark September 25th, 2007 04:52 AM

OK, that's it for the new titler.

Having been pleased with the apparent stability of v8 I've just found the courage to use it for some serious (ie paid) work and thought I'd take the titler out for a proper spin. Falls over pretty much everytime I've tried to do anything involving more than a couple of envelopes. Sigh . . .

Back to After Effects for my titles until they sort this out. In fact, I haven't been hugely impressed with the titler anyway. It's OK. But far from great. And now I find it's buggy. I may stay with AE regardless. Shame.

Dan Measel September 25th, 2007 03:39 PM

I'm still using Vegas 6. I'm scared to upgrade because of all the bad feedback I've read on 7 and 8. With the earlier versions its stability was one of the major features I liked.

Seth Bloombaum September 25th, 2007 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Measel (Post 749862)
I'm still using Vegas 6. I'm scared to upgrade because of all the bad feedback I've read on 7 and 8. With the earlier versions its stability was one of the major features I liked.

Vegas 4 - a GREAT standard def editor, best release ever.

If you're working with HDV it is a real shame to stop with V6, because V7 and V8 offer so much good stuff for an HDV workflow.

IMO "all the bad feedback" is posted by a small minority of users; after all, we use these forums to get help when we have a problem. (***edit*** a minority who are experiencing real problems that ought to be fixed in the next V8 release!)

I've had maybe one crash of V7e, and no crashes of V8, I'd guess that most users are not having issues with these releases.

Ian Stark September 26th, 2007 01:04 AM

Good edit Seth! Was just gonna get all cross and huffy!!

I have always found Vegas to be very stable - in fact even now it's only when I'm working with the titler (correction only when I USED to work with the new titler) that it falls over. For now, anyway!

Whether that's a problem with Vegas in general that is only being seen by users that are doing specific tasks in a specific way, or those users who push Vegas to its limits, or whether it is users with certain combinations of hardware, drivers etc, is the tough issue to identify!

Either way it's good to know (from past performance) that the developers work to resolve these issues and release regular updates. Four or five a year I guess.

Looking forward to 8.0a.

Marcus Schuler September 27th, 2007 05:53 AM

After having the first typical problems by upgrading to version 8 (capture module was not working properly, programme crashed when clicking on a file in the project media files, etc.) I decided to do a complete new installation of my video computer.

Under Windows XP (E6600 with 3GB RAM) I only installed Vegas 8 (without installing Version 7 as well) and Adobe Audition - and - guess what - everything works very well. No more crashes, nothing.

:-)

Marcus

Albert Rodgers December 16th, 2007 12:54 PM

I have had V8 crash a few times. I hope the next update will resolve these issues.

Adam Letch December 16th, 2007 05:04 PM

Dotnet 3
 
Sometime I wonder whether some of the problems arise out of Sony overinstalling things and not checking previous versions, especially if you use Cineform, Soundforge and Vegas.
Maybe I'm wrong, but they seem to brute force install these even though a higher version already exists on the computer at the time of install. Could this stuff things up??
So when installing, as I only have Soundforge 8 I install this first which only wants .NET Framework 1, then Cineform which I think wanted .NET Framework 2, then Vegas which puts on .NET Framework 3.
In the old days programs would look first for example, what version of DirectX is already installed and then only install if it had a newer version, the Sony line of software seems to fail to do so. I maybe wrong as it's been a while since I installed, but I wonder if there could be something to this as I recall in years pass that reinstalling DirectX over a newer version for example would cause instability probs?

Seth Bloombaum December 16th, 2007 05:39 PM

Adam, you could be right in general, but I don't think multiple versions of .net could be a problem.

.net is actually 3 or 4 different software installations that can peacefully coexist on the pc. (4 because 1.1 seems to be a different installation than 1). You never "upgrade" .net, when you install eg. 3 on top of 1.1 or 2, it just adds additional libraries of procedure calls.

At least for my limited understanding... I've been working with a programmer who writes apps in .net, he's now at MS, and I have a full set of .net on several computers without issues. And yes, V7 and V8 run fine for me.


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