Doesn't sound right to me. What does the cpu activity look like in your task manager?

Ctrl/Alt/Del then performance tab.

I agree with Alastair - looks like something has gone wrong.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=123627 Is this any good, Alastair?

Darn an Blast!!!!!!

Too late! I jumped almost immediately. Maybe an e-mail to Dave will work?

It is just a whole new chapter in what you can do with video though, so, I'm not grumbling.....too much!

Guile, I notice you said that it took a couple of hours to render a 40 minute project without MB the other day. With a Quad core just like yours my workstation would render out a 40 minute project in 18 minutes or so. Is there something else going on in your project that is slowing it down?

Hey my CPU usage is at 2% ... it shows Vegas 8 is running. Now 16 hours and 0%.
Any suggestions?

i didn't see any mention of the frame count in your preview window but from your description i'm guessing the answer is it hasn't increased.

i'd suggest canceling the render (CTRL-ALT-DEL if necessary), closing Vegas, re-booting, and trying again.

also: are u rendering in 8bit or32bit? i've had glitches like the one you're experiencing rendering in 32bit mode... it'd hit a certain frame and just stop... in 8bit it rendered fine.

I'd suggest trying a render of a video with no effects, say dragging video of 20 minutes onto the timeline. It should take no more 10 minutes to render. That will narrow down things a bit. Check your CPU usage as well. I'm still bothered about the 40 minute video that took two hours to render that you mentioned.

Likewise, had the same here.

Hey I made a few tests.
I tried rendering short projects with MB effects, and they rendered just fine. The frame count was slow but steady.
In the feature project the frame count stops at 587 which is where the effects begin, and stays there. Weird. I appreciate your help.

How do I change from 32 bit to 8 bit?

I think GPU helps a lot as well.

Richard

File/Properties then look for the Pixel Format box.

Over simplifying it, 32bit gives you more dynamic range which makes for improved colours (somebody correct me if I am wrong). These pics show the difference. It comes at the price of longer renders.

Ian pointed out that the $99 upgeade path was open to Vegas 7 users as it came bundled with MB Lite. I had alreay purchased at this point. E-mailed MB and I am delighted to say that they are going to refund the difference.

Vary rarely do you get GREAT customer service like that these days.

Even at full price, this is a HUGELY powerful toolset to have at your disposal. If you qualify for the $99 upgrade path, you would be a fool not to grab this with both hands.

STUNNING!!!!!!!!

Problem solved folks!!! Guess what:

I upgraded my Vegas from 8a to 8b and now its been one hour and 10% done rendering.
so happy!
amazing, my Vegas was crashing!!!!!

Thanks

Alastair - refreshing to hear. I don't want to steal anyone else's thunder, though - it was James Hooey that discovered the upgrade route, not me!

Guile - congratulations! Glad you got it sorted.

Great Guile, happy to hear you've found the solution!

What a fantastic deal on the MB...unbelievable. thanks to those who blazed this upgrade path and passed it on!

Alistair, did you get the $99 upgrade from using your vegas 8 licence or vegas 7?
Thanks

Hi guys - can anyone tel me what the procedure for upgrade is?
I added the $99 to the card and it took me straight to payment without asking for my Vegas 7 serial?

I have already upgraded from Vegas 7 to Vegas 8 - do I still qualify?

Cheers

Glad to hear that some other people seem to be getting the deal too!

Fergus - strangely it never asked for a Vegas 7 serial number from me either during download, purchase or install. It seems the software might detect the Bullets Looks plugin from Vegas 7 to allow it to be a valid upgrade serial # that Red Giant emails you after purchase. In either case it worked fine.

If you want confirmation before you buy just email them and ask. They were quick to respond and were completely thumbs up to the $99 pricing for me.

Yep, I'd agree with that.

thanks chaps

did you install straight to Vegas 8?
I no longer have Vegas 7 installed on this machine after the last reformat.
Just feel a bit nervous about ordering it only to find it can't find some software for the installation to perform.

Cheers

Fergus - it's a whole new downloader so no worries about not having anything left over from v7 (except perhaps your serial number, but even that looks like it isn't required).

Thanks Ian - I will go for it - great offer and cool product

cheers

Hi Fergus, keep us updated!

May God have mercy on my soul for suggesting this.

http://www.pinnaclesys.com/images/re...erview_uk.html

This may actually be another way of getting it cheap, along with another few bells and whistles to add to your arsenal.

If only I didn't have a little voice in my head screaming....it's PINNACLE, it won't work properly, and you will end up needing counseling for anger management after a week using it!!!!!!!

Great link, Alastair.

Is this the Magic Bullet Looks 1.1 for Vegas that is under discussion here? You get ALL these tools too? And the Tool Chain with the keyframer? Or is this an AE thing? MB Looks 1.1 it's NOT only colour presets? Correct?

http://www.studiodaily.com/main/news/feed.rss/8216.html

Grazie

Yes this is the one

OMG! - Anybody got some footage I can salivate over?

Grazie

you can download the fully functional demo, it just has a watermark on images until you buy the license! I've installed it but haven't used it yet...thanks for the link to the turorial...very nice!

Jeff? When using the DoF option, ie the blur function, does the centre of attention move WITH the subject? I think I know what the answer will be . . .

TIA

Grazie

Sorry Bernard, haven't used the product yet...don't know...I played with it for five minutes but that was all...

Unfortunately, unless I have missed something, the answer is NO. Bummer or what. Keyframes would make this just perfection itself. Ian Stark mentioned that you could probably do something with keyframes and masks over a duplicated track.

I remember reading that now, yes that would be nice...

Graham,

MB Looks 1.1 does not have keyframe ability within Vegas....so you cannot achieve this through simple keyframing....however :)...

Here is a method I have used with success with the swing/tilt tool (or vignetting/spot exposure - anything that could be wanted keyframed.

Select your clip and apply your MB effects to the start of the clip.

Cut your clip into segments - particularly at movement specific points - at spots as if you were going to insert a keyframe within a normal Vegas plugin. The MB plugin is now specific to each cut length of clip.

Go to the start of each cut segment and adjust the MB effects to best suit their desired position/settings.

Once all the segments have been MB'd :) overlap each segment at it's cut to create a smooth crossfade to it's adjacent segment.

Play....:) While not as elegant as true keyframing....the effect can morph and move over time smoothly with the crossfades to almost achieve a keyframed MB effect.

A] Well, I've got the "Looks" - known it for years . . anyways . . I think I have a Keyframe option, so not having to split the event.

B] Also I can save the Preset and have the exact same MB Look filter available thru' Plugin Manager as a Saved Chain!

I can now apply the MB look having the star filter rotate over time applied to a clip that didn;t have the look applied to it.

Also, I have discovered a way to alter the numbers by holding down the LEFT meece button and scrubbing left and right over number adjusts - bit like a slider?

Having too much fun now . . BYE!!!

Grazie

Red Giant have acknowledged that keyframes is the No 1 feature request. They are working on it for future releases.

Thanks Alastair.

I've been rooting about the forums and I understand that to be the case. It is essential to be able to "scrub" through some footage to see how it will develop. I guess for still images, JPGES, PNGs and so on it must be a great piece of s/w. However, dealing with 25fps is a wee bit different - well I think so?

OK, in that case, has anybody got the Standalone version to work? I haven't.

Also my install of MBL is saying 1.03. Is this the same as MBL1.1? Or is there an even later iteration that I am not aware of? Could somebody clarify this for me - for Vegas? - Just go to the HELP and you will get the version number there.

No scrubbing/playing in real-time of an application's plugin? And no keyframing of the same effects? Amazing . . . . what WILL they think of next!

Grazie

From what I understand from various Red Giant responses to the beta testing group, some of the restrictions are forced upon them from the way Vegas works.

Keep in mind that Vegas compatibility has been built on top of the existing AE version, which handles things differently to Vegas. I would imagine that keyframing, for instance, would have to be built in within Looks, rather than using the Vegas keyframes, as I believe is the case with, say, Boris (stop me if I'm wrong - I don't use Boris). That would have presumably been a very significant departure from the original AE version. Same thing probably goes for masking within Looks and real time preview.

My wishlist:

- Keyframes
- Real time preview
- Preview to firewire (so I can see the results on a production monitor)
- Masking within Looks
- and, if I'm being pushy, a waveform monitor.


Grazie, are you running the demo or the full version? Interestingly mine says v1.01 (not 1.1 or 1.03).