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Yang Wen April 16th, 2009 04:34 PM

Any news of Vegas Pro 9 for NAB?
 
Don't want to turn this forum into a rumor circus but I'm just curious..

Mike Kujbida April 16th, 2009 05:47 PM

There's all kinds of rumours floating around but we won't know if any of them are true until next Monday.
In the meantime, you'll just have to be as patient (yeah, right!!) as the rest of us :-)

Dale Guthormsen April 16th, 2009 07:00 PM

Good evening,


they do not even have 8.1 working flawlessly yet,

if 9 comes out hopefully it will be complete and not an expensive update!!!

Yang Wen April 16th, 2009 10:00 PM

That's what I'm saying.. 8.x has been such a mess, might as well come out with 9...

Edward Troxel April 17th, 2009 06:26 AM

Here's the bottom line: Anyone who knows cannot legally tell you. Anyone who tells you doesn't know. As was mentioned, you'll just have to wait and see whether or not it happens.

Joe Bowey April 17th, 2009 11:22 AM

Saw a blured out vegas pro 9 box. Had to run pic thru photoshop to make it out. Pic was from ad by sony I recieved in mail.

Pavel Houda April 17th, 2009 12:44 PM

Would you recommend it?
 
Guys, you seem to think that Vegas is too buggy. I've been using Final Cut Express lately, but am thinking of switching to Vegas. I am really unhappy with Apple not supporting Blu-ray and multi-channel aundio, as well as with Roxio having pretty poor support with their BD authoring, I was thinking about jumping ship into Vegas. Would you recommend it? I had a demo downloaded, but it expired before I really tried it, will not let me try again.

Bill Ravens April 17th, 2009 12:52 PM

no, no, and NO!!!

Seth Bloombaum April 17th, 2009 12:58 PM

Yes, Vegas is highly recommended. FCP is also a great product - if you're happy with it, why change?

Vegas is a little different in concept than most NLEs. A "power-editor" from the fcp or AVID world is going to wonder why Vegas is made the way that it is. However, lots of us like the way vegas works, very intuitive, much closer to the tao of windows than the workflows that came from the film world and were adapted to digital editing by AVID.

Buggy? Well, there are two newer functions that have turned into large issues for some people: the 32-bit float color mode, and the 64-bit version 8.1 Pro. However, aside from those, which most editors never use or experience, vegas is absolutely one of the most stable NLEs out there.

Rick Diaz April 17th, 2009 01:08 PM

I absolutely hated Vegas when I first started using it. Too different from everything else I was using/had used. Thankfully, I gave it a chance and now I am a happy Vegas Pro user. It has also been rock solid running on Vista 64.

Pavel Houda April 17th, 2009 03:28 PM

"no, no, and NO!!! " - any reason I should know about?

"Yes, Vegas is highly recommended. FCP is also a great product - if you're happy with it, why change?" - I have just FCE, not FCP. It is good, I'd like to edit surround sound sometimes, and FCE cannot deal with it. The more important part is the Blu-ray generation support. The only cost effective solution that I know of in the Apple system is Roxio Toast, which has sporatic compatibility with several players, the menus are tacky, and the chapter generation doesn't work at all well. I assume that the DVD Architect Pro 5 works properly. Those are my key thoughts at the moment.

Rick, thank you for your input.

Thanks all.

Seth Bloombaum April 17th, 2009 04:52 PM

DVDA5 is pretty good, a very professional product. It doesn't include much in the way of templates and pre-made menus. Full capabilities to import graphics, masking, video menu backgrounds, etc., but you gotta' make all the assets to take advantage of it.

And yes, from what I understand, Vegas' is a decent approach to 5.1. I've not used it, but a buddy is working in it and has no complaints.

Jack Bellford April 17th, 2009 05:35 PM

I highly recommend Vegas. It's fast, intuitive, efficient, and effective. It's also a great program in terms of audio editing as well. (It actually started out as an audio editor)

Admittedly, the DVDa interface may be a bit strange but once you get used to it you will quickly learn just how flexible and powerful it is. I do almost nothing but Blu Ray now complete with 5.1 sound and Vegas does nothing short of an exellant job from the time line right to the disk.

My only complaint with Vegas is that the preview system could be a bit better. The technology used to make it work is old and needs updating. I think knows this however so I wouldn't be surprised to see it updated in the next version or 2.

As with other programs there are some issues and bugs, but work arounds have been developed and do work well.

My opinion.... you can't go wrong with Vegas.

Eugene Kosarovich April 17th, 2009 11:52 PM

I compared a number of NLEs before I moved to Vegas from Newtek's SpeedEDIT, which itself is a bit different than the "traditional" NLEs, and I'm very happy with Vegas.

I've found Vegas to be very stable and full featured. I've yet to find something that I actually need to do that I can't do in Vegas either natively or via scripts or plug-ins. The bus structure of Vegas for both audio and video is VERY powerful.

No NLE is perfect, but I find Vegas to be better than any other NLE I've used.

Gene Gajewski April 20th, 2009 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Bloombaum (Post 1104786)
Vegas is a little different in concept than most NLEs. A "power-editor" from the fcp or AVID world is going to wonder why Vegas is made the way that it is. However, lots of us like the way vegas works, very intuitive, much closer to the tao of windows than the workflows that came from the film world and were adapted to digital editing by AVID.

Wow. I've never heard the Vegas 'workflow' described so succinctly before. It's a true concept though. Many computer applications copy an existing workflow - sometimes conciously and sometimes not.

I find that over time, the new workflows tend to be adopted once the Joe Schmoes start outproducing the old schoolers to the point where serious career money becomes an issue. But it takes a long time to overcome the old school gravity - this is true for any workflow that has been automated.

In my day job as a SW programmer, I see many things in the Linux world which are touted as the next greatest thing, but have been around for decades in the Windows PC world.

Nicholas de Kock April 21st, 2009 12:37 PM

Sony Vegas Pro 9 is here!!!
Sony Creative Software - Vegas Pro 9 - Introduction

Also Vegas Pro Production Assistant!!!
Sony Creative Software - Vegas Pro Production Assistant - Introduction

Keith Paisley April 22nd, 2009 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pavel Houda (Post 1104782)
Guys, you seem to think that Vegas is too buggy. I've been using Final Cut Express lately, but am thinking of switching to Vegas. I am really unhappy with Apple not supporting Blu-ray and multi-channel aundio, as well as with Roxio having pretty poor support with their BD authoring, I was thinking about jumping ship into Vegas. Would you recommend it? I had a demo downloaded, but it expired before I really tried it, will not let me try again.

I don't find Vegas 8.0c to be buggy at all. I have installed 8.1 but have not used it much. When I did use it, it seemed pretty stable but I know some have come across some 32-bit/64-bit compatibility issues with legacy codecs and plugins and such. I don't consider those bugs, but more of a migration issue. I purchased Final Cut Express a few weeks ago and I am extremely dissatisfied with it. As a long time Mac and Windows user with years of experience with Vegas and Premiere (mac and windows), I thought maybe it was time to give the Final Cut series another shot since I primarily use OS X these days, and I was hoping to get away from dualbooting with bootcamp.

I primarily use Vegas and prefer it to Premiere Pro, but I can work within either tool pretty much interchangeably. After getting a 5D Mk II last year and trying to edit its footage, I was beginning to think that maybe Vegas was getting a little long in the tooth, and I still think it has room to improve in several key areas, but after much suffering through several projects in Final Cut Express, I feel like I've been taking Vegas for granted. To me, using Final Cut is like trying to type with mittens on. For an Apple product, it's not very intuitive, and it's VERY slow - it seems like you can't do anything without requiring a render (Really!? I can't preview a fade out on an audio track without first RENDERING the entire track?? wth? And if you need to synchronize audio tracks on the timeline, when you drag a waveform, it turns invisible until you drop it. Not very helpful!). Once you are done with cutting your project, when it's time to render out it is agonizingly slow to render as well. Overall, it just feels archaic in comparison to Vegas.

It seems like Final Cut must be appropriate for certain workflows. Else, why would people recommend it so highly? I can't imagine there are that many Apple supporters out there who automatically assume that there's nothing better out there, but maybe there are?? IMO, if you need to get stuff done quickly (on a deadline), Final Cut is absolutely a non starter.

Going forward I will not be using FCE for anything except maybe generating fancy titles or slates or something, and that's only if Apple won't issue a refund (I'm going to call and ask for one). I don't understand why they don't provide trials. If there were a trial available, I would have known very quickly that I couldn't purchase it. I've mentioned it in another thread already but I would really like to see an OS X version of Vegas. So I guess for now I have to keep on living with bootcamp and will be purchasing windows 7 when it's released. I've already pre-ordered Vegas 9.

Jason Robinson April 22nd, 2009 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicholas de Kock (Post 1120731)

I just saw this software as well. Any one have a better idea about its usefulness? Looks like they are releasing an official script pack kind of like Ultimate S or Excalibur.

Jeff Harper April 22nd, 2009 12:58 PM

See Vegas Pro 9 thread....


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