Vegas, Windows 7 & Magic Bullet Looks
 

Hi there, quick question, has anyone been using Magic Bullet Looks on Windows 7 with Vegas 8? I was thinking of trying it out.

I just installed it tonight from my 7 Disk. Seems to work okay. Still slow to render.

32 or 64 bit? One of the reasons I want to upgrade to Windows 7 is because Magic Bullet doesn't work with Vista 64.

Thanks,
Aaron

It does work with Vista 64, I'm using it at the moment. It doesn't work with Vegas 8.1 though but 8c works fine on Vista 64 with MBL.

Vista 64 is not the issue with 32-bit plugins. The version of Vegas you use is! If you use any 32-bit version of Vegas on Vista 64, it will se Magic Bullet just fine. If you use any 64-bit version of Vegas (i.e. 8.1 or 9.0-64), Magic Bullet will NOT be seen.

There ARE some 64-bit plugins available. For example, all NewBlue plugins work as well as aav6cc plugin and virtually all of the scripting plugins.

I'll chime in here:

Magic Bullet works perfecty with Vista 64 bit.

You will find no advantages with Windows 7.

In addition, it will not be long before Windows 7 will be shutting down every two hours and then soon after wont' work at all unless (unless you hack it).

Then you will be stuck with going back to Viosta anyway.

Hi Jeff, which version of MBL are you using? I can't seem to make the following work:
- Windows 7
- MBL v1.1
- Adobe Prem CS3

Previous, I had been using it on WinXP is was working fine.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Cheers.

Wow, talk about an old thread...and boy was I wrong about Window 7, I love it, great OS. Anyway, I use Vegas, not PP, sorry couldn't be of more help.

I can't seem to get MBL to work with Vegas 64 on a 64bit system. MBL web site also says they do not support it. What did you do to make it work? Thanks.

MBL doesn't work with the 64-bit version of Vegas. It will work with the 32-bit version of Vegas on a 64-bit OS but not with the 64-bit version of Vegas.

Looks like there is a 64-bit version of Magic Bullet Looks on the way. Version 1.2.1 when released will be 64-bit.

Red Giant Software: Featured - Vista 64-bit Product Compatibility Chart

You also have to have a compliant video card to install MBL. If you don't the installer won't let it install.

Yeah, for 8.1, according to that chart. I wonder if that page is out of date! I hope not: I'd love to have a 64-bit MBLooks!

Generally speaking... if it works in 8.1 it ought to also work in 9.0 64-bit.

Oh I don't disagree, Edward, if your comment was in fact a reply to my post.

What I meant, but maybe failed to make clear, is because 8.1 has been out for a long time, now superceded by a version and it's two revisions of Vegas Pro, then RedGiant's indication on rolling out a 64-bit version of MBLooks is maybe out of date, too. For instance, perhaps they had plans to develop 64-bit MBL for use in 8.1, but not anymore. But I hope that's not the case. If just this one plug-in -- a workhouse in my projects -- had a 64-bit version, I'd be very happy.

Woah if MBL is 64bit its time to upgrade. 9.1 flew on my mac pro but without MBL its quite meaningless for me.

I don't think it's time (yet) because no 64-bit version is available on RedGiant's site. I was actually thinking of calling them to clarify whether such a version is really going to roll out...

Steve

That would be great. I half way across the globe form them ha ha. I think I better hang on for a short while till Win7 is released to purchase my new PC.

I just spoke with RedGiant who clarified that because Sony Vegas constitutes the smallest customer base for them, no 64-bit version of MBLooks is on the horizon. The chart referenced in a post above should be updated to reflect that fact, according to the person at Red Giant.

Should FCP and Avid head in that direction, however, there may be hope of seeing a 64-bit version for Vegas, too, also according to Red Giant.

So, don't hold your breath... :(

Steve

Oh well, I guess they plan on keeping it that way. 64-bit adverse software companies are one of my pet peeves. It's not like 64-bit is brand new. These days, most PC's sold are loaded with 64-bit Vista -even relatively low-end ones.

Long ago I said as much regarding plug in availability for Vegas. As Red Giant testifies, the user base is too small for us to expect too much in this regard. Since the vast majority of professional editors that use Vegas are event-oriented, etc., (I'm guessing, no facts to back this up) it all adds up. Events editors don't need the extensive libraries of plug-ins that feature movie people need, but they would be nice anyway. I feel very fortunate that we have NewBlue.

No reason one cannot toggel between 32 bit and 64 bit versions for a while, it is not that inconvenient to do the majority of our work in 64 bit and then finish if off in 32 bit if we need a MB look. Rendering time of 64 bit Vegas is not that much faster.

IMO, not a huge price to pay for the ease and convenience of Vegas; only a minor snag. Eventually all apps will be 64 bit, of course, and this issue will be non-existent as all plug-ins will be 64 bit as well.

Jeff, I can't disagree with your good points. Relatedly, I've overhauled my workflow so that I'll lock down an edit in 8.1, do any intermediate renders in 8.1 (using CineForm), and then finish off with 32-bit plugins/FX for a final render in 8.0.

Helping me along is a nice 20% overclock I just gave my Q9550 a few nights ago (rock solid at 3.4!), giving me a little boost to render speeds while in 8.0 (and a real nice boost in 8.1 -- all cores ~100%). I tend to use MBLooks and NeatVideo quite a bit, so I figgered I'd better wring more out of my CPU. ;)

Steve

I use Cineform as well. I really like the editing work flow flexibility it allows. It is so nearly lossless that virtually no video quality is lost due to an intermediate render during a project work flow.

will Magic Bullett run on WIndows 7 64 bit and Vegas 8.0c?

Yes. Vegas 8.0c is 32-bit and Magic Bullet is 32-bit so they will work together and will both run on Win 7-64 bit.