Vegas 9.0a keeps crashing
 

I went thru Vegas 7,8 and now bought upgrade to 9 and real problems started. It crashes my system saying " system is low in memory" (Q9450 and 4GB of RAM). I reached the point that it crashes even when I reder SD projects! System is clean - no unnecessary software there - it is clear that it is ver. 9 that is causing the problem. What is going on!

1. Open Task manager. Click Performance tab. Take screenshot.

2. Open Vegas with NO video on the timeline. Take screenshot.

3. Load a video project that is only a few minutes long. Take screeenshot.

4. Click Processes tab in Task Manager. Take Screenshot


Post those four screenshots here.


The "problem" is that you are running out of RAM. What we can tell from the screenshots is why.

I know - that's what error message says - but the sysetem shows plenty of RAM available; there is also tons of virtual memory assigned. I will do screen shots and post them.
Everything was perfect in Vegas 8c

8c does not have the RAM requirements of 9.0. Simple. I'll be VERY curious to see the screenshots.

I will post them soon.
the system was reinstalled like 3 weeks ago and it is clean - it is editing machine that runs around the clock;
Another BIG issue I have is that I can't render to mp4 either sony or mainconcept for the simple reason that Architect is crashing.

here is my recent post:
"--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I can't produce BluRay using either SonyAVC or Mainconcept AVC compressions.
I got this message:
File name: STREAM/00001.m2ts
Status: TSWrapper.dll::CTSWrapper::ProcThreadMain::Video buffer underflows. -

I use templates for Sony and same values for Mainconcept. It is possible to burn BD directly from Vegas timeline BUT I need to produce BD with menus.

It works OK when using mpeg2's; what is causing that error with mp4's; how to fix it? "

Video buffer underflow?

What are the machine specs? (CPU/RAM)
What video card?

it is known bug in sony avchd codec but when it happens also in mainconcept that's strange:
Video Buffer Underflow error during prepare of Blu-ray Disc project

cpu quad Q9450 4GB of RAM Nvidia GTS8800 640MB RAM

btw: how to paste screen shots into message?

Try setting the Dynamic Ram at 512 or 1024 and see if it helps.

I set it to 1024 and I am rendering for 30 minutes now - so far it works but it is SD - I am affraid to think about HD

That doesn't look like a bug to me. Looks like people not knowing hot to calculate bit rates. Big difference.

I am beginning to think that 4GB of RAM is just not enough for doing these HD projects that people are trying to do. Stuff with titles, transitions, etc., and using long-GOP codecs on the timeline. It's just too much.

Save your screenshots as a jpg or bmp. Then attach them as attachments to your post on here.

Perrone,
I rendered it using Vegas templates so it shouldn't be a bitrate issue; strangely there is enough RAM to produce mpeg2 BD with menus but when I import mp4 (either Sony or Mainconcept) then Architect crashes.

Mpeg2 doesn't require NEAR the RAM or horsepower that Mpeg4 does. This is easily seen in people trying to drop native AVCHD (Mpeg4) onto the timeline versus the HDV (mpeg2) that they had been using.

Is there any way to assign some additional "virtaul memory" for Vegas on some RAID drive??? I have Win XP and I guess it will not allow me to use more than 4GB of memory...

Mike,
Is that Dynamic RAM used also during regular rendering???

Not sure if you are running the /3GB switch, but looks like you might be.

32bit OS + HD long-GOP video = problems.

I don't think it is but, to be honest, I can't remember.
I vaguely recall having to set it to 0 to complete a few renders but that was back in the Vegas 5 or 6 days.

BTW, the 512/1024 numbers I mentioned earlier came from a guy on the Cow Vegas forum and here's his post.

I have been doing test HD renders (DNxHD codec) of a fairly complex 30 min. project (many layers, many effects). This is on an i950, 8gb ram, Vegas92-64bit.

I seem to have found an odd relationship between the Dynamic Ram setting and the render success. When I set the Dynamic Ram to "0" or a very low setting, the render process crashes, fairly early in the process.

When I set the Dynamic Ram very high (2048), it crashes late in the process.

When I set the Dynamic Ram at 512 or 1024, the HD render completes.

I realize that there may be other factors involved and that these results are not necessarily related to the Dynamic Ram setting. But, I mention it for those who have had problems rendering in HD with 9a. Rather than logically setting the Dynamic Ram to a very low number, try some higher settings (but not too high---depending on your system).

Sh..
I just bought an upgrade to 32bit Vegas 9.0
What would be soulution; what system configuration works for you Perrone?

The upgrade to Vegas 9 includes both the 32 and 64bit. The same license works for both. I am running both.

When I got my new editing machine in July, I bought the fastest machine I could afford. I then promptly wiped the hard drive and did a clean install of Windows7. Bare.

I installed only Vegas 9 32 and 64 bit, DVDA 5, my codecs, and my conversion programs. I think Internet Explorer comes even in the bare install, because it's there. Other than that, I have nothing on it.

My laptop is running Xp64bit and running Vegas 8.0/8.1/9.0 32 and 64 bit. It's got the same conversion programs, firefox, and some other programs on it. But I run it LEAN. It's also got 4GB or RAM. I'd like 8 but can't afford to do it.

I think one of the things that I don't do that seems to cause people a lot of stress, is that I don't edit long GOP on my timeline. I make new masters before I start cutting my video unless I am doing something extremely simplistic. I prefer to use 10-bit codecs anyway, so that's what I do. And I rarely have any problems at all. I did have an issue this year where one of my machines choked when I was rendering a long 1080p project with complex titles, .mov masters, and other stuff. It ran out of memory. You could just see it happen.

how did you get windows 7?

Through my enterprise agreement. We spend several million dollars a year with Microsoft. :) The commercial version should be shipping in a couple weeks.

Marius,

I (and many others) stumbled over this as well, it must be a bug in the memory management by Vegas. There is a workaround: Start a new project and nest the troublesome project inside it. Then it renders well (and even uses more memory than doing it directly). The only drawback is that the rendering time is much longer, I think about twice as long.

Lou

I filed a bug report and a sample project about this at Sony's. The confirmed they can reproduce it and that it is a bug. They are working on it but I don't know when a fix will be available.

You can use AVC if you do a recompression in DVDA. But that takes extra time and lowers the image quality.

Lou

The fact that a subclip renders fine, but takes twice as long, should be a clue as to what the problem is.

Well, what is it then?

My Vegas 9a was fine until I installed the WAVE audio plugins. Now, once I have about 4 effects chained together it'll crash a lot.