You are doing a Tools - Print Video to DV Tape? If you are on the timeline and simply press "play", you will get no audio via firewire (this is normal). Also, unless you've rendered the entire timeline you'll get stutters when you've added effects or other things that are too complicated for the cpu to keep up in real time. By doing a Print Video to DV Tape, you'll get both video + audio via firewire and, if you get stuttering, there's a good chance that something else is going on in your system.

I don't think it's Vegas.
Given that I use Vegas for large multitrack audio projects along with HDV every day....
Are you capturing to your boot drive? That would be one cause.
are your hard drives in DMA mode?
Do you have your capture preview screen enlarged? What about other system resources? Sound card or firewire card sharing IRQ with other devices?
Outputting to a 24p project? Or are you using a 29.97 project with 24p in it?
Are you working with a rendered project file? or trying to play the timeline and print to tape at the same time without rendering of any kind?

Here is the exact wording. I hope this helps.

Audio
Audio should be mixed on Channel Two only. No audio should be placed on Channel One. Audio levels should be consistent throughout the show and should peak at 0 dB VU. Levels should be referenced to the tone in the slate. All speaking talent should be properly miked, preferably with a lavalier style microphone, on the talent’s chest. Audio should be mastered so that each speaker’s dialog is clearly understood, free of noise, pops, static, dropouts, or distortion. The Outdoor Channel reserves the right to reject tapes if talent audio is unintelligible. In certain hunting situations, talent may need to whisper in an attempt to prevent game from detecting their presence. In these cases, the use of sub-titles to support the dialog is expected.

Doesn't help much. Usually Channel two is reserved for everything but dialog.
Channel 1 usually is a Mix with Channel 2 containing M&E this means that Channel 1 includes all audio - VO, interviews, nat sound and M&E. Channel 2 will include everything but the VO.

That's a standard....so I guess in your case, you mix everything to channel 2, which would be left only. Kinda weird, I'd be calling them on the phone to clarify, because that makes no sense to me. Are they expecting that you won't have nat sound? Music? Effects?

I thought it was weird to. I just found out that HDV does not have to be done that way but DV does. I sure am glad I am not doing DV. I guess I could manually go through every track until they were all on Left.

24p advanced to 60i, my brain hurts
 

Okay, I'm using Vegas 6.whatever the latest is, and I'm assembling a new demo reel. This reel has frame mode footage (pseudo 30p) from my XL1s, 60i footage from same, and some 24p Advanced from the DVX100a.

So. . .

I'm in a regular 29.97 timeline, and it didn't occur to me 'til I watched my first rendered file of the reel that the 24p footage looked a little wacky.

Question:

How does one convert 24P advanced footage back to 60i, keeping the look? What project properties, render settings, etc.? Thanks.

did a search for this on here, could not find it.

Josh,
You can render out the 24PA stuff to a separate file inserting 2:3:3:2 pulldown, then just cut those clips into your 29.97 timeline.
Hope this helps.
Ken

Is that as simple as it sounds? Just rendering, and then 24p with blah blah blah pulldown?

Yup, it's *that* simple. If you start with a 23.976 timeline, Vegas sees the pulldown automatically.
If you right click the file in the Project Media tab, you'll be able to instruct Vegas to always auto-remove pulldown (it should anyway) by setting that property, and clicking the small floppy disk/save icon.

DVD Architect Fails
 

Well, I did my first project with Vegas and a render. I used a template that is for DVD Architect. When I run DVD Architek I can load the AC-3 file with no problem but when I try to load the MPG file I get an exception error and then after closing the dialog box I get the dialog box to send an error report to Microsoft, which I do.

With this, I am unable to finish my first Vegas project. :( And I don't want to spend another 5 and one half hours rendering it again.

The details of the error are as follows:

Sony DVD Architect
Version 3.0c (Build 133)
Exception 0xC0000005 (access violation) WRITE:0x710E980 IP:0x30873FF
In Module 'mcplug.dll' at Address 0x3080000 + 0x73FF
Thread: RenderThread ID=0xEA8 Stack=0x443F000-0x4440000
Registers:
EAX=000005a0 CS=001b EIP=030873ff EFLGS=00010203
EBX=06e8a694 SS=0023 ESP=0443f5dc EBP=0443f604
ECX=03124560 DS=0023 ESI=06dcbb08 FS=003b
EDX=fffa0e70 ES=0023 EDI=0710e980 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
030873FF: F3 0F 7F 37 F3 0F 7F 47 ...7...G
03087407: 10 03 7D 14 83 E8 08 0F ..}.....
Stack Dump:
0443F5DC: 00000001
0443F5E0: FFFFE980
0443F5E4: 001D3628 00150000 + 83628
0443F5E8: 000005A0
0443F5EC: 00000000
0443F5F0: 00000B40
0443F5F4: FFFFD300
0443F5F8: FFFFA600
0443F5FC: 0000021D
0443F600: 03124560 03080000 + A4560 (mcplug.dll)
0443F604: 0000043A
0443F608: 030895EE 03080000 + 95EE (mcplug.dll)
0443F60C: 000005A0
0443F610: 00000000
0443F614: 07700280 07110000 + 5F0280
0443F618: 00002D20
> 0443F658: 0308A249 03080000 + A249 (mcplug.dll)
0443F65C: 00000000
0443F660: 00000000
0443F664: 00000000
0443F668: 00000000
> 0443F694: 004B41C9 00400000 + B41C9 (dvdarch30.exe)
0443F698: 001D3628 00150000 + 83628
0443F69C: 00000000
0443F6A0: 00000000
0443F6A4: 0443FD04 04340000 + FFD04
> 0443F6D0: 004500F7 00400000 + 500F7 (dvdarch30.exe)
0443F6D4: 00000000
0443F6D8: 00000000
0443F6DC: 0443FE60 04340000 + FFE60
0443F6E0: 04D3FF20 049B0000 + 38FF20
> 0443F798: 7C919513 7C900000 + 19513 (ntdll.dll)
> 0443F79C: 7C919551 7C900000 + 19551 (ntdll.dll)
> 0443F7AC: 7C97C080 7C900000 + 7C080 (ntdll.dll)
> 0443F7B0: 7C911970 7C900000 + 11970 (ntdll.dll)
> 0443F7E0: 7C90EE18 7C900000 + EE18 (ntdll.dll)
> 0443F7E4: 7C910570 7C900000 + 10570 (ntdll.dll)
> 0443F7EC: 7C91056D 7C900000 + 1056D (ntdll.dll)
> 0443F7F0: 7C80FEFF 7C800000 + FEFF (kernel32.dll)
> 0443F7FC: 7C80FECF 7C800000 + FECF (kernel32.dll)
> 0443F800: 7C838F36 7C800000 + 38F36 (kernel32.dll)
> 0443F81C: 01701462 01700000 + 1462 (stl2plg.dll)
- - -
0443FFF0: 00000000
0443FFF4: 7C3494F6 7C340000 + 94F6 (MSVCR71.dll)
0443FFF8: 013B4070 013A0000 + 14070
0443FFFC: 00000000

Rename your m2v file to mpg and see if it plays in Windows Media Player. Be sure you have the latest DVD Architect installed.
You may want to reinstall DVD Architect, it looks like there is a MainConcept error there. You're registered, right?

Rendered HD Jumps
 

I have been searching posts and testing, testing, and more testing, and I can not seem to solve this problem.

Here is the scenario.

I am filming on a Sony Z1, HD 1080 60i 29.970 fps at 1440x1080

I download footage by using Data Capture in Sony Vegas 6 via firewire.

I can preview the footage in Vegas and other media applications (such as realplayer or windows media - by renaming the mt2 to mpg).

Here is my problem. I want to render some footage to maintain the HD quality and preview on computers and/or HD TV's, but depending on the clips that I render, the video jumps or skips quit a bit.

I have tried mpg, avi, and wmv codecs (including wmv9).

Not all of the footage jumps, but a lot of it does. The "jumping" occurs at exactly the same points regardless of the codec. However, if I view the mt2 source, no jumping. Also, if I render to a non-HD format, no jumping. For example, If I create a ntsc for dvd architect, (720x480), no problem, or wmv 256k, no problem. It is only the HD renderings.

It has occurred to me that the computers that I test this on may not have enough horsepower to render, but I have tried on a variety of machines.

My final product will be viewed on televisions, initially non-hd, however, I would like to have the final product in hd so that it can be viewed in hd when required.

Does anyone have any idea what is going on here ? Is it the codec, sony vegas, or what ?

Also, is there a better way to render the HD ?

I appreciate any thoughts and can post examples of what is happening if anyone would like to see it.

re: rendered HD jumps
 

Bruce,

Being completely new to video editing I probably cannot offer anything that would help, however I have a HDR-HC1, I capture HD using the Sony utility.
I have had good results with several rendering settings but I am partial to Windows Media 9 (wmv) at 3Mbps. In "Vegas 6" by Douglas Spotted Eagle, he cautions to capture onto a non-operating system disk. I never had a problem but have taken his advice to heart just in case. I have increased my PC memory to over 1gb on a two-year old $400 Dell special. I believe large file sizes need NTFS partitions. My virtual memory is set to 1536mb for all disks. When I added an additional disk strictly for rendering and capturing, I had severe "jumping" on all video (DV+HD), until I updated the PC bios to accept the new disk. If DV renders fine, perhaps the large HD files have something to do with it. I can't think of anything else. Good luck.

The file is .mpg it was not m2v. Should it have been?. I have version 3.0c (build 133). I just got it yesterday from VideoGuys.

Interesting thing is a file I rendered from MSP8 will load but no audio or chapters because it is not compatible.

When I play the .mpg file rendered from Vegas it will play but is very choppy when there is motion such as panning. The MSP8 rendered file is also choppy but not as much. I used a slightly lower bit rate for it.

I used VBR for both the Vegas and MSP8 files with 8,000,000 max 7,000,000 average and 6,000,000 min. I used 1,000,000 less on each of the above values with MSP8.

The original file is crys0001.mpg as captured using MSP8. I did not have Vegas yet when I made the capture. This is a Church service so I can't go back and capture it again. This file is what I used in similar projects in both MSP8 and Vegas.

I captured direct to hard drive from my Sony HC1. There were no dropped frames. I did not use tape. This is a HDV file not a DV file.

Editing system has a Pentium 2.8 giggle hertz with hyper threading and 1.5 giggles of ram. Working hard drive for video is ATA 160 giggles and the boot drive is SATA 120 giggles. I am using Windows XP home edition with SP2 and DirectX 9.0c. Drivers and software are all updated including the bios on the motherboard. There are no 'yellow' !'s in the hardware devices.

I installed Vegas and DVD Architect last night after watching the excellent DVD I got that you did. Well, actually half of the DVD because I fell asleep in the chair while watching it. Oops... ;) I registered both Vegas and DVD Architect.

Best I can think of to say at the moment.

By the way, Vegas is a joy to use. For the first time since I have been doing video editing I actually had fun! I started way back in the early 1990's with a software called VideoWave with a 300 mhz celeron computer. Talk about slow rendering and editing. And I did an hour long project for Singles with it.

In spite of my current problem, I love Vegas.

Thanks,

Danny Fye
www.dannyfye.com

Update: I have a theory as to what might have caused the problem. I will re-render the file and see if my theory is correct and then let you know what the results are and what the theory is.

Meanwhile I need to backup this thing and spend another 5.5 hours with the re-render.

Thanks again,

Danny Fye
www.dannyfye.com

Danny, why not just render over a short segment to test your theory first? 5 hours is a long time to wait.

I have als had a issue with the combination of Premiere Pro 1,HDV downconverted to MiniDV and Mainconcept which is apparently Premiere's mpg encoder.

Eventually I got my .mpg file after about five tries and it was only a short file.

It seems I might have been trying to encode to mpg off the timeline and not from the clip I thought I had selected.

I attibuted it to personal fatigue and the steep learning curve but maybe it was something else. I wear Premiere 6 like a comfortable jacket but Premiere Pro is still tight under the armpits and I won't say where else.

Thanks for bringing this here. I shall watch with interest.

Problem Solved
 

I originally rendered a file with MSP8 expecting to use it with my final DVD. I had decided to go ahead and get Vegas+DVD (I am so glad I did).

I have a folder named 'MPEG' that the original MSP8 file was in. I created a sub-folder and moved the MSP8 file and its associated files into so as not to be in the way when I render a file from Vegas. Also to preserve the original files so as not to get in a bind from a deadline.

Even so, somehow the files got mixed up. I don't know how it happened. I don't remember moving them around or whatever but somehow the MSP8 file got re-located in the main MPEG folder and the Vegas file got into the MSP8 sub folder with the Associated files mixed up.

Playing both files gave poor results. I decided to delete all the rendered and associated files from the MPEG folder including the sub folder and then re-rendered a file from Vegas.

This time I did it after a fresh reboot. I don't know if that really made the difference or not but it took 3 hours and 5 minutes this time instead of 5 and a half hours. It took 9 minutes to do the AC3 stereo file. I used VBR at 7,000,000 max, 6,000,000 average and 5,000,000 min.

Now it plays fine without any stuttering and loads into DVD Architect 3 without any problems.

My next step is to finish learning how to use DVD Architect 3. I looked at the included manual and said, huh?

So I watched the basics on the DVD I got from VASST and I am now ready to have at it. Thanks so much DSE and VASST!

So with that, its back to video work.

Thanks much,

Danny Fye
www.dannyfye.com

External midi controller (Phatboy)
 

Hello all,

Is anyone using a Phatboy midi controller (used to be made by Keyfax or G-Media) to control Vegas?

I've just bought a second hand Phatboy to use with Cakewalk Sonar and I'm wondering whether I could use it elsewhere, ie Vegas.

If there is anyone using a Phatboy, what parameters are you controlling and is it easy to set up?

Audio out of sync?
 

The audio portion of a clip got moved slighty out of sync with the video --

What's the best way to re-sync the audio portion of my video clip? Is there a comand to 're-sync' the audio to its video clip? (moving it manually doesn't seem to get it perfectly)

Thanks

PS -- still in Vegas 5

In Vegas 6, you can just right-click and choose "Sync". Since you're in Vegas 5, you could try this:

Delete the audio
Right-click the video and "open in trimmer"
Drag the audio from the trimmer below the video

hd jumping
 

Paul,

Thanks for the information. I have not tried to view the rendered video on a non-system disk. I will try it.

The machines that I have tested on have plenty of memory, I have tested on machines with 1 and 2 gig of ram and on a two processor 64bit machine with 3 gig ram. I have the same results on all of them.

The file sizes are not that large as I am trying to view only a few seconds of footage.

I have posted some of these files to show exactly what is going on:

Rendered files:

256K wmv (700 kb)
http://www.broussardvideoproductions...Test22_256.wmv

ntsc for dvd architect (14,698 kb)
http://www.broussardvideoproductions...sc_da_best.mpg

wmv9 1440x1080 HD (33,756 kb)
http://www.broussardvideoproductions...est22_best.wmv

A different HD clip that jumps (36,920 kb):
http://www.broussardvideoproductions...ds/clip021.wmv

I have included the clip021 source here (83,718):
http://www.broussardvideoproductions...ds/clip021.m2t


The test22 clips were rendered by selecting a small portion of a large input file, they use exactly the same selected area.

The jump in the file at about 10 seconds is due to the camera being paused and restarted during filming. As the video shows the 256k and sd file work fine, the wmv does not.

Any comments are appreciated.

Apologies, for the incorrect file names:

wmv9 1440x1080 HD (33,756 kb)
http://www.broussardvideoproductions...est22_best.wmv

the mpeg 2 transport file is called:
http://www.broussardvideoproductions...ds/clip021.m2t

audio delayed while previewing on external monitor...normal?
 

Hey all,

I preview on an external monitor...OK, it's a Toshiba 14" TV but it does the job.

The external video and the audio (from the PC, of course) are slightly off. Is this unavoidable or is there a tweak I need to perform?

Using Vegas 5.0b and upgrading this spring.

sincerely,


ian

There is a tweak you can perform to fine tune the timing. Go to Options - Preferences to the Video Device tab and adjust the "Sync Offset" as needed.

Super!

Thanks Ed.

That helps a lot.

sincerely,


ian

H.264 Rendering from Vegas Movie Studio.
 

I am trying to figure out what setting I can a decent render with the h.264 Quicktime codec from Vegas Movie Studio +DVD. While I am able access the H.264 codec from Premiere Pro, I can't do so in Vegas Movie Studio. I am rendering both from HDV and DV.

Vegas 6.0c adds support for H.264 under the "Sony AVC/AAC" moniker. The default template is great for the Web. I don't know whether Vegas Movie Studio has the same feature.

HD jumps
 

Bruce,

After looking at your wmv files, I can only suggest that your check some standard settings that would affect display, preview or rendering. My File->Properties->Video->Template settings are "NTSC Widescreen" because that's what I prefer viewing. You may need to try a template of "HD 1080 60i 1440 x 1080" or similar. I'm guessing because I'm pretty new at this. Possibly a search of this forum may turn up something. Sorry I can't be much better help.
Good luck.

PC Spec Recommendations - advice
 

Hi there - a friend of mine is offering to sell me his Pentium 4 2.4GHz PC, with 512MB of ram, 16x DVD burner, Adobe Premiere 6, and the various Matrox video cards to go with (think it's one of the RT ones with the video accelerator / dual monitor capability) for £300/$525.

I'm want to move on from Pinnacle Studio 7 (hey it's old, but it's the last Pinnacle version I could get to work properly). I was looking to get a standalone machine and Movie Studio Platinum seemed a good choice (maybe to move up to Vegas 6 later), as it seems broadly similar to Studio 7. Try as I might, I just can't get to like Premiere - just seems overly complicated after Studio.

But I have to move quick - should I buy my friend's computer, then by Platinum at a later date?

OR - do I decline and ask him to build me a PC purely for running Movie Studio Platinum. If so, what specs would you recommend? I would like to keep to the £300/$525 budget. I intend to buy a 120GB firewire external hard drive to go with it seperately.

Thanks in advance!

Paul.

In my opinion, Premiere 6 just wasn't very good. It had a lot of bugs in it, and the workflow is terrible / you have to push a lot of buttons to do what you want. Premiere Pro is definitely better. Although I personally like Vegas a lot more than Premiere Pro.

Vegas will run on just about anything, so it should do well on his old computer (if you want to buy it). Vegas will even work on a celeron 300ghz.

$525 will buy youa computer similar in speed to his old one, so you might as well pick up his old machine.

My PC has very similar specs. I built it 3 years ago to run Vegas and it's still performing very well. $525 is about right for Feb 2006.

Also made the move from Pinnacle Studio to Vegas. Best move ever, can't recommend it enough.

I'm working on a Project (Vid Included) Need Advice/Support
 

I'm new to Vegas and I've just started my project in Vegas 6. I'm trying to figure out what direction I'd like to go in. I've started in "a" direction: http://www.tchracing.com/tmp/Turbo32v.wmv (please right click, save target as)


I've got a few things on my mind.

1.) I'm having trouble locating the bottom left logo/tag on the screen properly. I start with a media generator "heavy shadow" locate LEFT then BOTTOM and adjust it with PAN/CROP but at a low point it cuts the text and doesn't display properly. What can I do to easily place a logo in the bottom left? I had a Photoshop transparent/gif over matte black but it didn't provide enough detail/sharpness for me.

2.) I'd like to letterbox this project. I read in Vegas I need to make a Mask in PS then add a video layer and drag the mask for the duration of the film. Is there a better way of doing this?

3.) By going letterbox I think I'll be able to cover the jitter of a free moving camera. Do you guys think this will work? Most of this film will be in car and or without a tripod.. I saw a tutorial of a plug-in for Vegas and they achieved a nice effect using a mask/title page and jitter/shake correction on a clip. I'll be using my letter box mask as they did the title page.


This project is based on a web release. I'm planning

"Superman" opening credits sequence effect
 

I would like to be able to duplicate the opening credits sequence from the movie "Superman" (the greatest opening credits sequence in cinema, IMHO). Thankfully, I only need to do it for one title, not for several. And I'd like to do it over another video clip, not over a black starfield. It's hard to explain if you don't recollect the credits sequence I'm referring to.

Is this best done in Vegas or Boris Grafitti/FX, or After Effects? I have all four. Is there a link you could point me to? Thanks.

That open inspired a lot of folks, including me. It is still grand.

Done using a process called streak photography. An animation stand camera slowly moves down toward backlit artwork with the shudder open, recording a 3D effect for each frame. In-between frames, the animation stand bed is moved north/south or east/west. Wash, rise and repeat for each frame in the sequence. Make no mistakes. :) Motion control over all camera axis made this process easier and more complex in terms of camera motion.

I used to do this to make money in college, going around selling all the local retailers streak and backlit animation logos for their commercials. Most of the time I couldn't afford the local Oxberry camera stand rental time, so I made a small track from hardware store aluminum, and literally pushed a Bolex toward the artwork by hand for each streak frame. It worked, and looked quite decent.

Now, just use After Effects, and the Trapcode plugin called "shine". Done deal in minutes.

EDIT: Oh, and the effect shows up better over black/dark background, but you can use any video clip in AE behind it.

Regards,

Jim Arthurs

Problem Solved
 

The problem was the bitrate. The default settings that I was using used an output bitrate of about 15m, this caused all of the issues. When I rendered with anything around 8m or less, all was well. Very clear results as I originally expected. Thanks for the suggestions.

Bruce

keyboard shorts for editing
 

Very basic question? Can someone help me with shortcuts for "I","O" and "," for fast marking of in point, out point, insert and overlay.In vegas 6 it is very inconvenient to use markers and drag de video and audio(if you are lucky to catch both of them) from the trimmer to timeline.

Thanks. I'm relatively new to NLE/digital video work, so I'm guessing that I will initially have to create a layer of text first (and keyframe its movement)before using the "Spice" filter.


Oops! I just realized I should have posted this in the regular DV Vegas forum, not the HD forum. Maybe the Webmaster can move this thread over there.

If you want to mark In/Out/Add to timeline from trimmer, place your cursor where you want to begin adding edited media.
1. Hit I to mark In point
2. Hit O to mark Out Point
3. Hit A to Add the selected area to the timeline

Repeat.

If you have a selection on the TIMELINE, you don't need to mark an Out point (or even an In point), just place your cursor in the Trimmer at the In point, and hit A. The media in the trimmer will fill the selection on the Timeline.

Does this help? I wasn't sure I understood where the question was.

Can I include ac3 when making a mpeg2 for DVDArchitect
 

Hi
Do I have to change the duration of audioclips in Vegas if I render 25i to 24p to mpeg2 in order for them to be synced?
I have hundreds of audiofiles in my project. So that would take a long time. Can't I instead choose "include audio" when I render the mpeg2 file for dvdarchitect and under "system" choose "save as separate elementary streams"?
If not, do you know an easy way to sync video with audio without having to change every síngle clip of audio?

/Fredrik