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Edward Troxel April 5th, 2006 11:53 AM

+DVD also gives the AC3 encoder!

Douglas Spotted Eagle April 5th, 2006 11:55 AM

Richard, the "HD" in the Vegas 6 marketing really takes away from what 6 is all about. HD is a great buzzword, but you'll be happy with 6 regardless. Using Liquid here as well, and really unhappy with the instability, even on a dual proc, fast machine. Sexy looking tho...:-)

The +DVD is important if you'll be authoring DVDs, because it contains the AC3 license, and you'll love the encoding. If you don't plan on doing any DVDs, then don't worry about it, but the two do go together as a suite, if you want the best of all worlds.

Paul Carlberg April 5th, 2006 12:32 PM

MainConcept AVC/AAC MP4 for IPOD's?
 
Has anyone tried rendering footage in Vegas to MPEG4 to play on an IPOD, PocketPC, or similar? I rendered a short clip and emailed to a friend of mine that has an IPOD but he indicated that only the audio worked. Thanks!

Paul

Chris Sigmon April 5th, 2006 03:08 PM

Vegas 5 and Multi-Processors
 
Does anyone know if Vegas 5 is optimized to take advantage of multiprocessor pc's? If so, how do I set the software to take advantage of the second processor. I have a Dual AMD Opteron 64, and I've heard rumors of close to real time rendering. What are some of your experiences.

Thanks for any help/insight you can offer.

Edward Troxel April 5th, 2006 03:25 PM

Vegas 6 has been but Vegas 5 was not. It WILL use both - one for video and one for audio which means one will be working really hard and one will be basically doing nothing. So... expect around 50% CPU usage (of course you could always open another instance of Vegas and continue editing!)

Seth Bloombaum April 5th, 2006 03:59 PM

I had *really* good luck with this. Documented here http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=61204

I just used the template, then later tried again at reduced bitrate, check out the thread.

Does your friend know how to import video into an iPod? As I recall you have to go through iTunes, but my local iPod owner/operator is at school right now...

Jamie Hellmich April 5th, 2006 07:09 PM

Hey Brian,

I got the same offer. It is a good price for 6.0, but I believe I want the +DVD and AC-3 Audio package with it.

I think you need the AC-3 Audio function to use the Dolby audio encoding for DVD surround sound ability.

I do have the DVD Architect Studio which came with Platinum, and like it really well.

Perhaps some of the experts can correct me if I am wrong. If all I do need (want) is Vegas 6.0, then that is the route I would go, as it is a couple of hundred dollars cheaper. Anyone?

Edward Troxel April 5th, 2006 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie Hellmich
I think you need the AC-3 Audio function to use the Dolby audio encoding for DVD surround sound ability.

You are correct. For the AC3, you need the "+DVD"

Jamie Hellmich April 5th, 2006 08:15 PM

Thanks Edward,

I am going to order as shown from B&H.

Jamie

Peter Diamond April 5th, 2006 08:16 PM

NeroExpress DVD questions regarding video disk size
 
Hello everyone. I actually have a question regarding Nero. I am trying to make a DVD movie that is a compilation of home videos. Nero has indicated to me that it is too large to fit on a 4.7 GB DVD and that either a DVD-9 disk must be used or quality will have to be reduced. I can't use DVD-9 disks, I do not want to loose quality and I have many added features (transitions, titles, chapters, etc.) that would be tedious to recreate so I am simply removing scenes that I can do without. Unfortunately, the size of the project does not reduce when I remove these clips. I literally removed a clip that was 2 GB and the size of the project did not change at all. In some cases it actually goes up when I remove clips. Is there some way to have Nero recalculate the project size without recreating it or reducing quality? Also, do you have any tips for reducing the project size of which I may not be aware?

Please note that I like to get as many responses as possible. If someone else has responded to this question, please feel free to respond anyway.

Thank you very much.

Peter Diamond

Fred Helm April 5th, 2006 09:25 PM

will Vegas run with this OS/board
 
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Toledo 1GHz HT 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor - XP pro x 64?

Seth Bloombaum April 5th, 2006 09:36 PM

As I understand it that mobo & processor would be a solid performer with Vegas, but perhaps not optimal for native HDV. Still, it should chew through standard DV and HD intermediates (Cineform) for HDV just fine.

However, you want to stay away from the 64bit version of windows. At best, it does nothing for Vegas, at worst, Vegas may not run, according to reports such as this http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=47922.

Fred Helm April 5th, 2006 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Bloombaum
As I understand it that mobo & processor would be a solid performer with Vegas, but perhaps not optimal for native HDV. Still, it should chew through standard DV and HD intermediates (Cineform) for HDV just fine.

However, you want to stay away from the 64bit version of windows. At best, it does nothing for Vegas, at worst, Vegas may not run, according to reports such as this http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=47922.

can you suggest what to replace with since i have my builder on line...? mobo that is...

Fred Helm April 5th, 2006 09:49 PM

Building Comp For Vegas
 
I guess its a no go for 64 OS's? Then what should I have built for vegas?

Neil McLean April 5th, 2006 11:07 PM

AC-3 Rendering Scripts
 
Are there any decent scripts available to automatically render the project audio upon completion of the MPEG-2 render?

I'm using Vegas 6.0d (build 210) and DVDA 3.

TIA
Neil

Douglas Spotted Eagle April 6th, 2006 06:52 AM

DVDPrep will do both for you, and name them the same name, etc so they are found by DVD Architect and mated correctly.

Chris Sigmon April 6th, 2006 07:04 AM

Thanks, Ed for the reply..... I have been contemplating upgrading to Vegas 6, but I thought I'd wait til after NAB. Any rumors of a Vegas 7?

Paul Carlberg April 6th, 2006 10:56 AM

Seth, hit me over the head! I just noticed the Apple Ipod sub-menu. Thanks for the thread.

Richard Bender April 6th, 2006 10:58 AM

Thanks for the input.

I ordered both Vegas 6 +DVD....looking forward to learning it.

Seth Bloombaum April 6th, 2006 12:51 PM

I'm still working on a new computer spec, I'm sharing ideas rather than experiences.

Here are a couple of resources I've been reviewing.
http://www.johnrofrano.com/pcequipment.htm
http://www.videoguys.com/DIY4.html

A friend just built a couple of screamers based on ASUS SLI mobos, with nvidia chipsets and dual-core AMD.

Stay away from Via chipsets.

More HDV native m2t performance with the most expensive AMD dual-core processors.

Stay away from 64 bit Windows.

Neil McLean April 6th, 2006 01:08 PM

Thanks for that Spot!

I'll have a look at it tomorrow...

Neil

Randy Stewart April 6th, 2006 05:23 PM

Fred,
Thought someone would have answered by now. I just built an AMD X2 4400 dual core machine that really screams. Got all of the parts from New Egg. Here's a link to my wish list: https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion...asp?ID=1766378. It's a shared list under Randy's New Computer. Hope this helps.
Randy

Dale Paterson April 8th, 2006 06:06 AM

Adding realtime effects or plug-ins to Vegas
 
Does anyone know if it is possible to assign or add realtime effects to Vegas tracks?

Let me explain my question another way:

I want to use Vegas to record multiple audio tracks for video from a mixer.

Is it possible for me to apply some of the plug-ins to the individual tracks so that the tracks are recorded with the effect of the plug-in applied in realtime i.e. not after the fact or in post?

I am thinking particularly of the compressor / limiter plug-ins specifically to compress / limit incoming audio in realtime or on-the-fly - to serve as a double check against clipping and the like of the original recordings.

Regards,

Dale.

Douglas Spotted Eagle April 8th, 2006 06:45 AM

Sort of. Vegas NEVER messes with the original anything, unless you tell it to.
You can insert comps, etc to the track, but it's only MONITORING with those, it's not destructively processing on input from the original. So, you can hear what specific plugs will do when you process, and it's real-time, etc. However, it's not actually affecting the original audio. This means you can always go back and modify the settings later.
If that's what you wanna do, right click the trackhead and choose "Enable input monitor". If you don't see it there, go to your prefs/audio device/advanced and select "Enable input monitoring." Then right click the track head again and enable input monitoring for that track.
Now you'll hear all the FX settings.

Peter Jefferson April 8th, 2006 07:26 AM

as DSE said u can route your audio through vegas... and u can even record these inputs onto the Vegas TL if u really were that way inclined...
With the right soundcard, you can use a nice console mixer and input each individual channel from that mixer into your soundcard, then from that soundcard, route each input to a track in vegas and throw down some filters...

really REALLY cool stuff.. i know afew performers whove ditched rackloads full of kit in favour of Vegas6 and a Yahama O1v mixer.. basically taking care of all their outboard FX needs...

Dale Paterson April 8th, 2006 11:41 PM

Thanks for the replies.

By the way Douglas - my 'Instant Surround Sound' by Jeffrey P. Fisher finally arrived so I am working my way through this (although much of the stuff seems to have been covered by my questions and the replies thereto on this message board as well as, of course, by trial and error).

Thanks for the input on the realtime effects or plug-ins. I understand what you both are saying i.e. sort of like having an 'effects send and return'. I just thought there might be a way of actually recording the tracks with the plug-in applied without having to follow the route that you both described.

The main problem really is that the inputs and controls (gain controls especially) on my Alesis mixer are EXTREMELY sensitive and as this is being used for live (speech, vocal) recordings (did my first one with this setup last week) I noticed that it was really difficult to set and maintain the levels for 6 different mics - you don't know what type of voice and at what level the individual presenters are going to deliver their goods - so I thought of adding a compressor / limiter to each track in an attempt to make these adjustments less 'critical' as it were i.e. if one speaker was slightly 'softer' then the track would get a slight 'boost' and if another was slightly 'louder' then the track would get a slight 'limiting' and at the end of the day you should have individual tracks that were more or less at the same levels.

I have been able to achieve all of this in post production but it really did take some time to fix 6 mono tracks of about 3 hours each and then still had to play around with them some more in Vegas as only when I was finished removing DC offsets, normalizing entire tracks, and then normalizing individual speeches within those tracks, did I realise that once all of this was mixed down to stereo for the video the track the audio data is combined i.e. after ensuring that each track had a peak of -3.0dB when mixed to stereo - clipping was occuring when there was an overlap of sounds on each track (like applause for example). The applause was not clipped on the individual tracks but the combination of the applause on all six tracks when downmixed to stereo caused clipping at those points).

Any thoughts or input?

Aside from all of this (and the audio / video synch problem described in a another thread) I think I have finally found a top notch quality solution for the type of audio that I need to capture for video.

Regards,

Dale.

Milt Lee April 9th, 2006 12:39 PM

I just build one with John Rofrano's specs and I love it. ASUS mobo - duel core AMD. VERY VERY Quiet and very very fast. 2 gigs of ram. I'm not into Hi def yet so I can't really say about that but I will be shooting some in a couple of weeks so I can report back then.

Milt

Milt Lee April 9th, 2006 12:45 PM

Editing and saving regions as new files
 
So I have a bunch of tapes with misc. segments. Usually I capture with sclive and it' automatically saves tapes into seperate files. but sometimes I don't or I'm in the middle of an edit and I realize that I want to save a piece as a seperate file.

Is there another way that I'm not aware of - of saving things seperately - other than saving what's on the time line as a "SAVE AS - checking copy and trim"

or is there another program that will do it a little easier. I have't checked SClive on this - just curious how others are handling this.

thanks,
Milt Lee

Seth Bloombaum April 9th, 2006 02:10 PM

Well, I'm not that familiar with subclips (might be worth investigating though), and not sure what sclive does.

But there's a VERY handy script that comes with Vegas 5 and later called batch render. If you go into it you'll find settings to choose any existing render templates, including custom templates you might have saved.

AND, most importantly, a render-by-regions setting, which will render each region into separate output files.

I could wish that there were more flexible file naming arrangements, like to include the region name in the filename, but this is a very handy script.

Milt Lee April 9th, 2006 04:02 PM

Moving regions from one VEG to another
 
What's the trick for moving regions from one VEG to another? Here's what I did - I created 2 subclips - then I opened a second Vegas, then I dragged one of the subclips into the new unnamed VEG. Went fine, BUT the sound did not appear to go with it. The message on the time line is - (media offline) and that continues through out the timeline.

Suggestions?
Milt

Daniel Kissel April 9th, 2006 09:27 PM

Vegas 6.0d VERY slow with Sanyo HD-1 footage
 
I am having the hardest time previewing clips in Vegas on a AMD X2 4800+, 2 GB RAM, RAID.

I get about 2-5 fps on draft preview. Now, watching the clips in Quicktime in fullscreen does not even tickle the computer, so I am assuming that maybe a codec is not properly working in Vegas?

So far, search on this forum only yielded tah it works quite well, but no fps indication.

For example, opening a 12 min HD-1 project almost takes 20 minutes, renering it, however, is quite fast.

The Movie Factory software is very fast on the same machine...

Milt Lee April 9th, 2006 09:52 PM

Why is Vegas 6.0c telling me I need to buy a AC-3 encoder?
 
So I'm getting ready to burn a DVD. I already rendered the video for DVDA - now I want to render the audio. I go to what I've always used ac-3 and it tells me I need to buy it first. What gives?

One more piece of information. I recently moved my copy of Vegas from my old computer to my new computer. Is this what's causing the issue? Everything else works just fine. It re-registered the software when I went to do the DVD render. But doesn't want to let me do the audio.

Thanks,
Milt

Graham Jones April 10th, 2006 01:11 AM

No, that's not happening with me.

I'm trying to think of what other stuff I have installed.

Power DVD 6 which has some codecs. VLC player. Real Player. divx6. Nero 7. Probably some stuff I don't know about. I'm not being very helpful here, sorry.

I have a Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz, Processor Speed is 2.59 GHz, Memory (RAM) 768 MB, XPSP2 Operating System Version 5.1.2600.

I also have a Radeon 9700 card.

I think Vegas would probably be more demanding than Movie Factory.

Rob Lohman April 10th, 2006 01:46 AM

The AC3 encoder needs a seperate license key, which you get when you
buy the package of Vegas + DVD Architect (if I remember correctly). If you
just bought Vegas you did not buy a license to use the AC3 encoder.

So you either need to get that license or re-find your license key.

Gian Pablo Villamil April 10th, 2006 02:08 AM

Will Vegas Video work with the Panasonic HVX200?
 
Can't seem to find any answers on this. Basically will Vegas Video edit the HD files coming from the new Panasonic HVX200?

Jacky Yew April 10th, 2006 02:54 AM

Try to convert with MP4CAM2AVI and install FFDSHOW codec

Glenn Chan April 10th, 2006 02:55 AM

I believe you may need Raylight.

(Sorry, haven't used it.)

Edward Troxel April 10th, 2006 07:10 AM

Properly registering DVD Architect should fully unlock AC-3. If you have DVDA installed AND registered and you are still seeing this error, you may need to contact tech support to let them help straighten it out.

Robert Kirkpatrick April 10th, 2006 08:26 AM

DVD Architect: Full Version
 
I may be incredibly dense about this, but I'm really confused. My company bought the Vegas+DVD bundle, and I assumed that the DVD Architect included was the full version. However, there are a lot of grayed out features on the timeline of the DVD Architect that I have, such as Import Subtitles and Add Markers for example.

I've registered, and I've updated to DVD Architect 3.0c, but the items are still grayed out. I noticed that in the sample page on Sony that the items are also grayed out. Is this normal? I've emailed tech support, but have yet to hear from them. What am I missing?

Douglas Spotted Eagle April 10th, 2006 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gian Pablo Villamil
Can't seem to find any answers on this. Basically will Vegas Video edit the HD files coming from the new Panasonic HVX200?

You'll need Raylight to accomplish this.
Tutorial:
http://www.vasst.com/resource.aspx?i...a-d07e5bbc018f


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