wow, vegas is kickin my a**...noob
so i switched from p.pro and i know its my first day using it and all
here are my issues on day one 1. not sure why i need more than one timeline window and a trim window?? Can i trim on the timeline? and if so how? 2. Why does it capture a clip and splits it into many smaller clips? why how do i change it? 3. Why dont i have free use of the cursor to go anywere i want on the timeline? Im forced to slide left and right at at turtlesque rate. Why and how can i get a cursor...bleah.. 4. how do i zoom out of the timeline and zoom in.... I'm sure its just me but any help to these would be great. i'll have more i'm sure. |
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thanks i'll give those a shot, i just miss the razor tool that premier has
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how can i preview the clip i made on the camera/deck without having to render everything??
the ripple delte doesnt seem to work, hahahah I DONT KNOW HOW TO DO ANYTHING.... i'm slowy loosing patience 0_o |
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Did you uncheck "Recompress edited frames in your Vegas preferences? (Options>Prefs>Video) Did you capture video using some hardware other than a standard firewire card, such as a Matrox, Canopus, or Pinnacle card that uses a codec other than the raw file from the camera? I understand your frustration, but having a more descriptive explanation of your problem will really help. I'd recommend turning off ripple until you learn the basics, as that's a fairly advanced function. |
You can put your curser anywhere you want on the timeline instantly by simply clicking your mouse in the area just above the timeline (into the flat, gray area) wherever you want it.
So that Spot doesnt have to look like he's pushing his own products, I will tell you that his Vegas 5 Editing Workshop book (dont worry, 99.2% of it will work in 6 too) took me from blind idiot to pure creative freedom in no time flat....WELL worth the money and time. I also used his and Jeffrey Fishers jointly authored Instant Vegas. Instant Vegas will give you a super solid grounding in the basics, and Workshop will start you with the basics, but quickly lead you into the more advanced, semi-hidden meat of Vegas. Trust me when I tell you that the surface of Vegas is deceptively simplistic....you never know when you'll click an innocent looking little button or menu and find yourself in a new world of expressive potentials. One fine example being Track Motion. Stick with it...you will be rewarded when you find your breakthrough moment, and you will feel as if you have just found the surface after having your head held under water for years. Take your time and just tinker....don't try to "accomplish" anthing critical with a new program...just open up your playful child heart and have fin discovering the nuances. |
how do i disable this"opening media library" at the start, i keeps freezing vegas. I'm getting to know it a bit better....
still how do i ripple on the timeline? i also got it to preview on the sony deck for playback thanx Daniel i'm using vegas to cut a extrme sport video so i dont have time to tinker so to speak..ehehe u know thank you for all your help... now and in a few hrs :D cheers |
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Man, you've got guts! Editing an important project on an editor you don't know well....WOW. As far as ripple, you can: 1. Ripple just media on a single track 2. Ripple all media related to the position you're working in 3. Ripple everything including markers, regions, etc. To access these modes, select the drop down menu next to the ripple button seen on the toolbar. It looks like two small green squares with an arrow above them pointing to the left. If you want to delete a hole in the rough cut for instance, be sure you've got all/everything enabled for ripple. Then double click in the hole, and press CTRL+X or Delete. This will delete the hole and slide everything to the left. |
don't turn off scene detection until you get vegas figured out... the only way that vegas is bearable for me is with scene detection that splits up the clips, it makes a huge difference.
when using the split key, be sure and zoom way in on the timeline to get an accurate cut... it's so much easier with scene detection, because you don't have to do that. |
cool i'll try that douglas, guts i dunno more like stubborn, i was about to hang it all up and go and use premiere 7 wich i also put on the pc but...but im geting vegas going and both 24 and 60i work well with eachother..next will be dumping as mpeg and making test dvd see how it looks.
going back to play some more... i already shut down scene detection..i'll turn it back on give it another chance... also how do i grab a few clips to move on the timeline, so far it only lets me grab one at a time to move left right.. thanx this is going to be "learn VEGAS in 1 day" class- you guys are awesome!! |
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The sticky at the top of this forum lets you know of many useful little features Vegas has.
It should answer some of your questions. In particular, holding shift and crtl while over a clip will enable slip editing (and another edit mode I think). |
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depending on how your footage is shot and edited, scene detection can eliminate most of that hassle... the extreme sports vid being discussed in this thread begs for the use of scene detection. i believe that you can map out custom keys in vegas, so those functions could be moved to your left hand... but ultimately, vegas is heavily dependant on keystroke combos to be effective, which makes it difficult to learn. |
wicked thanxs guys
so this is what i did...i gave vegas a shot with all your help, i'm sure i can get a hang of it in due time, but right now i'm sticking to pro. 1.i captured with pro 1.0 2.i imported all the captures into 1.5 now here is the trick if i render a regular 24p clip on the 29timeline in pro 1.5, its going to mess the footage up, meaning it'll ghost, interlacting the whole 9 yards. But if you apply cc or effect to the 24p footage it is fine, go figure. So now i'm sticking to it thanks for all the help, very much appreciated. |
If you want to go frame by frame, here's a couple of options:
1) Hold down the ALT key when using the left/right arrow keys. That will move frame by frame. 2) Zoom in on the timeline till you get to the point that the left/right arrow keys move 1 frame at a time. (Left/right arrow technically moves one "pixel") |
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Get yourself a Shuttle Contour Pro and set it up for each of the Programs you use. That way you can switch between them without having to rethink which program you are in. I have Edius Pro3, Premiere Pro 1.5.1 and Vegas 6 all set up with the same keys on the Contour and it is the Contour program that manages the changes. Only use the mouse/keyboard for the things that are unique to the programs.
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I found it useful to go into the preferences and delete all of the preset key combinations (the ones it will let you without putting them back next startup...annoying) and rebuilding them from scratch using combos that make sense to me for functions that I use regularly and taylored to my own workflow. For instance, I made the left and right arrows move the curser by one frame (without needing to press ALT), and using the JKL for when I need to scrub faster. Since I built each one, am more intimately aware of how everything will work.
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if V6 is hanging on opening the media library ... make sure you have the newest NET 1.1 updates .. i believe there is a Net1.1 SP1 and a security update for Net 1.1 SP1.... out of 6 computers i had one that has been hanging off/on since build 110 - this week i did update its XP SP1 to SP2 and it no longer is hanging ... i do have a laptop that has SP 1 and it does not hang ...
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I highly suggest investing in some DVD training material. It'll make the transition 100x smoother. It did for me when I came from Premiere. Best of luck.
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I switched to Vegas 5 from FCP and I hated Vegas at first. I was thinking of abandoning Vegas because I found its workflow to be so counterintuitive (is that a word?). My wife got so tired of hearing me swear at my PC that she bought both of Douglas' books for my birthday. Those books really are excellent and have saved me hours of grief.
I found that I needed to change my whole editing paradigm when switching to Vegas, but it has been worth it - it is a good application and is well worth learning. Have fun! |
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