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Old July 14th, 2019, 12:48 PM   #1
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Vegas Pro 17 coming in August! NESTED TIMELINES!!

Just saw Vegas Pro 17 is coming in August. Nested timelines! Yes! I just upgraded from Vegas Pro 12 to 16 two weeks ago and I'm really diggin it. Looks like any buyer of Vegas Pro 16 from now through the end of the month gets a free upgrade to 17. I emailed them asking if I qualify which I should, according to me lol.

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Old August 5th, 2019, 11:30 AM   #2
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Re: Vegas Pro 17 coming in August! NESTED TIMELINES!!

Vegas Pro 17 is available now. Upgrade to Vegas Pro Edit costs now 199€.
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.co...egas-pro-edit/
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Old August 12th, 2019, 10:41 AM   #3
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Well, just watched how Vegas Pro 17 handles nested timelines. Rather let down to be honest. Seems like all it does is speed up the process of embedding other Vegas Projects rather having actual accessible nested timelines within the Project like Premiere Pro does. So basically to modify the "nested" timeline, you have to open up another project.

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Old August 13th, 2019, 10:58 AM   #4
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Well, just watched how Vegas Pro 17 handles nested timelines. Rather let down to be honest. Seems like all it does is speed up the process of embedding other Vegas Projects rather having actual accessible nested timelines within the Project like Premiere Pro does. So basically to modify the "nested" timeline, you have to open up another project.
Makes me feel good I have not upgraded ever since v.15. :)
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Old August 15th, 2019, 05:53 PM   #5
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It prevents you from needing to open Vegas a second time. It just switches to the other project in that same Vegas instance.
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Old August 16th, 2019, 04:49 AM   #6
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Ed, do you know if Vegas Pro 17 will support HEVC files? Right now DaVinci seems to be the only one that will handle Canon's HEVC. Bob
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Old August 16th, 2019, 11:16 AM   #7
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Re: Vegas Pro 17 coming in August! NESTED TIMELINES!!

My wish list is:

Routing to allow sidechain compression.

Aux sends on buses that can route to effects buses.

Gain line automation.
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Old August 20th, 2019, 02:17 PM   #8
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Ed, do you know if Vegas Pro 17 will support HEVC files? Right now DaVinci seems to be the only one that will handle Canon's HEVC. Bob
According to the Vegas Creative Software Web page, yes it does support HEVC/h265 both as source files and rendering out.
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Old September 2nd, 2019, 12:37 PM   #9
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Steve, thank you. I was hoping that it would. Bob
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Old September 20th, 2019, 08:31 AM   #10
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Re: Vegas Pro 17: free trial

In case it's not obvious to someone else too -
The free trial limits rendering to 2 minute projects, including preventing selective rendering of a <2 min portion within a larger project.
Work done in the free trial can't be opened in an older version.
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Old November 28th, 2019, 12:21 PM   #11
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Anyone using 17 successfully? I’m using with windows 10, 32gb ram and a fast i7 processor but get continuous freezes and crashes. I should add I’m using a lot of 4k video and 8k stills so could be that it just can’t handle the file sizes but my older windows 7 computer didn’t crash as often with 16 using similar files.

I bought it for the slow motion plugin which I like better than twixtor but so far it’s hard to get any work done.
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Old November 28th, 2019, 11:48 PM   #12
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My experience with v17 has been similar to yours but I'm now getting reasonable performance on an OC'd 8700K with a GTX 1080Ti card. The Internal Preferences settings that are getting me there are as outlined in the JPGs below. The File I/O is available under the normal Preferences tab. If you are using 422 10-bit files after the S04 change and have issues then you will more than likely have to revert back to the S04 default setting of TRUE. Let us know how you go. Also sometimes disabling OpenCL can help depending on you machine config but I wouldn't go there yet until you have tried these settings.

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Old December 3rd, 2019, 02:06 PM   #13
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Started by changing the "memory needed by Vegas" from default to 4096. Night and day difference so far.
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Old December 3rd, 2019, 07:48 PM   #14
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Good to hear. Hope it continues that way :)

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Old January 17th, 2020, 12:23 AM   #15
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Re: Vegas Pro 17 coming in August! NESTED TIMELINES!!

[QUOTE=Christopher Young;1955164.....The Internal Preferences settings that are getting me there are as outlined in the JPGs below. The File I/O is available under the normal Preferences tab. If you are using 422 10-bit files after the S04 change and have issues then you will more than likely have to revert back to the S04 default setting of TRUE. ...............
Chris Young[/QUOTE]

Thanks Chris,

Can confirm that Chris's changes make a big difference to HVEC playback in Vegas 17. (I did not change the SO4 setting)

I just purchased a Pana CX350 to shoot UHD50P 10bit hvec files and Vegas 17 would struggle on replay. This was also after updating rig to a i9 9960X series 16 core, RTX2070 super, 64 gig DDR4 and 2x NVMe PCIe inputs and SSD output drives. I thought this rig would nail it :0 And now it does work OK after above changes.

Weird that VLC and KMPlayer both would replay the 50P 10bit HVEC files smoothly, but V17 would not.
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