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Julian Jansen July 28th, 2006 08:48 AM

External monitor
 
I want to hook up a external moniter (Broadcast in future, for now TV) to my Vegas edit bay. I don't have a dv-cam around to use as a converter.

Is it possible to use the S-Video out of a cheap GPU?

(I own a onboard GPU (GMA950) now without S-Video or Composite out)

I have Sony Vegas 6.0 D

Edward Troxel July 28th, 2006 09:42 AM

Go firewire -> convertor -> analog -> TV

Your other option in Vegas 6 is to use a secondary monitor if you have a two monitor setup. Going to a TV, I'd go via firewire.

Julian Jansen July 28th, 2006 09:48 AM

Will this work, if I ad a extra GPu I'll have two vga out on that card and one on the onboard. Is it possible to have two monitors and via the third vga-out this convertor to tv?

http://www.colordrives.com/vga%20to%...0to%20tv-1.jpg

Edward Troxel July 28th, 2006 11:55 AM

For the most accurate image on the TV, stick with firewire. While other solutions *might* work, they may not work well or possibly give an incorrect image. If you want to play it safe, use firewire for SD external preview.

Julian Jansen July 28th, 2006 02:37 PM

Ok, so S-Video isn't an option?

Edward Troxel July 28th, 2006 02:50 PM

Sure it is - assuming your convertor/camera has S-Video out.

Kevin Richard July 28th, 2006 03:20 PM

I think he's referring to the s-video that is on his graphics card.

Julian Jansen July 28th, 2006 03:23 PM

The one on the video card

Edward Troxel July 28th, 2006 07:36 PM

Yes, I understand that. I'm saying he's better off ignoring the S-Vid connection on his video card and sticking with firewire. *IF* he gets it to work, there's no guarantee the colors will be accurate.

Kevin Richard July 28th, 2006 09:58 PM

I figured that myself but wasn't sure... I think his problem was that no one gave him a clear and concise "No" ... now they have ;)

Julian Jansen July 29th, 2006 04:58 AM

Thanks! Going to figure it out...

Jon Fairhurst July 29th, 2006 06:19 PM

Here's what I did, using a Sharp consumer camera:

* Connect Firewire from PC to Camcorder.

* Connect S-Video from Camcorder to TV

* Connect AC power to Camcorder (rather than battery power)

* Turn on TV

* Turn Camcorder on in VCR-mode (not camera mode)

* Press record (but leave it paused)

* Set up Vegas to output its signal to 1394.

Works great!

Edward Troxel July 29th, 2006 10:23 PM

You don't need the "press record (but leave it paused)" step. It should pass the signal just fine WITHOUT a tape even being in the camera!

Kevin Richard July 30th, 2006 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Troxel
You don't need the "press record (but leave it paused)" step. It should pass the signal just fine WITHOUT a tape even being in the camera!

Hmm, He actually might... I have a sharp and it doesn't do pass through out but it does have pass through in... I can go vcr > cam > firewire > PC but I can't go PC > cam > monitor... BUT I didn't try rec/pause mode... that might help.... I'll give it a test when I get back home and report back... I would be rather pleased!

Julian Jansen July 30th, 2006 01:12 AM

When I follow that steps , without te record/pause step , it doesn't work for me...

Vegas:

Hot pluggable device
Device unavailable

Please help me!

Cam: Sony DCR-TRV120E PAL

Kevin Richard July 30th, 2006 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian Jansen
When I follow that steps , without te record/pause step , it doesn't work for me...

Vegas:

Hot pluggable device
Device unavailable

Please help me!

Cam: Sony DCR-TRV120E PAL

Does it work WITH the rec/pause step? If so then that's just the nature of the beast and that's how you will have to do it... sucks because won't the camera go into powersave every 5 mins or so.... better than nothing for now.

Mike Kujbida July 30th, 2006 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian Jansen
Cam: Sony DCR-TRV120E PAL

On most (but not all) European camcorders, the pass-through feature has been disabled (licensing issue or something like that).

Julian Jansen July 31st, 2006 03:22 AM

I think I'll try it with my DCR-VX2100e later this week , maybe this works...

Jon Fairhurst July 31st, 2006 10:59 AM

Here's an update - I didn't need to put the camcorder into record mode afterall. It converts just fine as long as its in VCR-on mode.

There's one major technical problem with this approach - it makes me want to upgrade the PC, so it will do better real-time renders. ;)

Jason Robinson August 3rd, 2006 12:15 PM

Real Time Renders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Fairhurst
Here's an update - I didn't need to put the camcorder into record mode afterall. It converts just fine as long as its in VCR-on mode.

There's one major technical problem with this approach - it makes me want to upgrade the PC, so it will do better real-time renders. ;)


Are you refering to the preview in real time of all your tracks, effects, color correction, etc? IF that is the case thean your best bang for buck to upgrade would be your memory path to the CPU. So I guess I should say that this is not cheap because it is limited by your motherboard chipset. For better preview performance, you need fast RAM to CPU access. Having gigs of free RAM will not help much (unfortunately).

jason

Kevin Richard August 3rd, 2006 12:36 PM

Oh, as for a follow up on this... my Sharp VL-NZ100 won't preview :( Oddly it will do analog pass through coming in but won't preview the firewire data... only when I "print to tape" with dv controlled deck turned on do I get output on the screen.

Oh well... anyone wanna suggest a cheap POS mini dv cam that will allow pass through AND previewing? I need to replace a capture cam anyway and want to get one that can do both of these... the JVC that broke didn't do either.


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