Sanyo HD1

Bo Lorentzen · May 8th, 2006, 11:14 AM

A few months ago there were a big rush to see samples of the HD1, for good reason, we all wanted to make sure it would be a somewhat sensible investment. If nothing else a sensible toy.. (smile)

I for one have discovered everything I kind of already did know, light control, a steady camera, low ISO etc. leads to pretty nice results from the HD1. (particuarly considered its petite size)

Maybe its time to do a second round of samples, now when a bunch of very capable people, most much more so that I am, have had the camera for about a month or so... what fantastic video have you guys managed to produce with it..?

Personally I captured several nice shots Saturday in Caliente California, one of them uploaded to my site. Captured at iso 50 on tripod..

http://www.bophoto.com/HDV/video/index.html

As I said, most people in this forum really know what they are doing.. so lets see some great shots. (smile) Not the first day "I just unpacked my HD1" stuff.

Bo

Carlos Serrano · May 10th, 2006, 02:12 AM

Hi! This is my first post in this forum.
I´ve been reading here for a couple of months and finally i got my HD1 some weeks ago.
I´ve uploaded a file with 37 selected shots. This file is 163sec/183Mb long, converted to avi in MP4Cam2AVI_v2.29, so there is no quality loss.
I´m trying to upload a new file with 124 shots, 10 minutes/650 Mb, but I´m having some problems to upload this ammount of data.
Nice shots, Bo. This landscape seems to be a very beatiful place.
Thaks to all, and sorry about my english, I´m from Madrid (Spain).

The file:
http://files.filefront.com/HD1Footag.../fileinfo.html

I hope you enjoy this!
Bye!

Bo Lorentzen · May 10th, 2006, 09:17 AM

Carlos,

WOW, now thats a serious sample. and nice looking also. I would say that for anyone wanting to see what the Sanyo can make this is a worthwhile download.

Bo

www.bophoto.com/HDV

Carlos Serrano · May 10th, 2006, 12:42 PM

Thanks Bo.

The 124 shots file:
http://files.filefront.com/HD1Footag.../fileinfo.html
Enjoy!

Euisung Lee · May 10th, 2006, 03:12 PM

Carlos,
Fantastic footage indeed! Is the sun in Madrid doing the magic here? ;)

Can you share the general information of your setup? ISO, focus, exposure, stablization...

Thanks

Erick Hanoteau · May 10th, 2006, 03:24 PM

Hi Carlos,

Congratulations! Please see my next post....wrong manipulation...sorry

Erick Hanoteau · May 10th, 2006, 03:31 PM

Hi Carlos,

I do really hope that I am not dreaming.... I 've got my camera since only a few days but unfortunately, without having the time yet to experiment but, really, I wasn't expecting so much...such a quality!

What I have learned from your footage is that I urgently need a tripod and consequently and according to Sanyo, I will have to desactivate the stabilization. Am I correct?

Bo Lorentzen · May 10th, 2006, 03:44 PM

Erick

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erick Hanoteau

do really hope that I am not dreaming.... I 've got my camera since only a few days but unfortunately, without having the time yet to experiment but, really, I wasn't expecting so much...such a quality!

Don't you love when such a little camera turns out to be a good thing. ;-) But for what its worth, Carlos really is doing things very carefully and mostly by the book, clearly this camera will perform when treated nicely.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erick Hanoteau

What I have learned from your footage is that I urgently need a tripod and consequently and according to Sanyo, I will have to desactivate the stabilization. Am I correct?

Technically speaking you can leave the stabilization on... but why...? on the other hand you will find that the camera seems to produce slightly sharper images with the stabilization turned off, so this is actually a benefit in the pursuit of quality. Besides, the tripod does the stabilisation, so there is no reason in the first place to leave it on.

Bo

www.bophoto.com/HDV

Erick Hanoteau · May 10th, 2006, 03:57 PM

Oh sure Bo, I am so excited by these results. Now, I will have to learn using it in ideal conditions. A new challenge is born..;>)

Carlos Serrano · May 10th, 2006, 07:17 PM

Hi, Thanks for your comments.
The clips were shooted with different settings, I´m still learning to use it, but most of them was:

Tripod and Remote Control (to eliminate vibrations when zooming or pressing buttons).
Image Stabilizer: OFF
Exposition Measure: MULTI
Iso: Auto and 50
White balance: AUTO
Filter: NO
Manual Exposure: S (F AUTO, Shutter 1/60)
Scene Select: FULL AUTO.

No Noise Reduction, No Flicker reduction, no Digital Zoom.

I´ve noticed that sometimes the footage looks sharper when zoomed.

It´s a shame the diagonal "\" bug of the codec/scaler, if Sanyo corrects it with a firmware update, the quality could be amazing in good light conditions for a camcorder of this price.
I´m e-mailing Sanyo reporting the bug. If many users e-mail them, maybe they will correct it soon. I´m telling them too to keep the video out when shooting, and a higher bitrate option. This would be great.

Thanks again.
Bye!

Carlos Serrano.
CG Animator.
www.i-real3d.com

Stephen Chan · May 11th, 2006, 06:04 PM

Carlos, thank you for the great footage. You opened my eyes. The HD1 has much better movie mode than any still digital camera. Thanks again.

Felipe Del Villar · May 12th, 2006, 07:09 PM

Carlos,

Those are great videos....I wish I had the artistic skill.

How do you do it with the focus....my camera seems to be constantly "fishing" for focus....did you lock it?

How about those ones where you change the focus...are you doing it it by hand? can you use the remote? or maybe your HD1 knows how to do cool focus changes?

Thanks,
Felipe

Carlos Serrano · May 12th, 2006, 08:36 PM

Stephen, I´m happy if the information has been usefull for you.:)

Felipe, about the changing focus question, the answer is... casuality. I´ve selected the best looking part of each shot.
For the constant focus, manual or locked. I think in this camera we cannot change the focus manually when recording. I´m trying to make a 35mm adapter for the HD1, this will solve the problem (and will give a film look to the footage).

Thanks again!
Bye!

Wayne Morellini · May 12th, 2006, 10:54 PM

:)
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Erick Hanoteau · May 13th, 2006, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlos Serrano

I´m trying to make a 35mm adapter for the HD1, this will solve the problem (and will give a film look to the footage).
Bye!

Carlos,
What you are saying here, I don't understand. Would you be so kind to clarify your view?

Btw, I've shown your footage to some colleagues at my work. Sanyo will get a new client very soon...maybe two...(smile).

Your film looks terrific for this camera. What kind of tripod would you recommend?

May 8th, 2006, 11:14 AM	#1
Bo Lorentzen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Los Angeles - California Posts: 114	Sanyo HD1 - New Samples A few months ago there were a big rush to see samples of the HD1, for good reason, we all wanted to make sure it would be a somewhat sensible investment. If nothing else a sensible toy.. (smile) I for one have discovered everything I kind of already did know, light control, a steady camera, low ISO etc. leads to pretty nice results from the HD1. (particuarly considered its petite size) Maybe its time to do a second round of samples, now when a bunch of very capable people, most much more so that I am, have had the camera for about a month or so... what fantastic video have you guys managed to produce with it..? Personally I captured several nice shots Saturday in Caliente California, one of them uploaded to my site. Captured at iso 50 on tripod.. http://www.bophoto.com/HDV/video/index.html As I said, most people in this forum really know what they are doing.. so lets see some great shots. (smile) Not the first day "I just unpacked my HD1" stuff. Bo

May 10th, 2006, 02:12 AM	#2
Carlos Serrano Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Madrid, Spain. Posts: 31	37 shots file. Hi! This is my first post in this forum. I´ve been reading here for a couple of months and finally i got my HD1 some weeks ago. I´ve uploaded a file with 37 selected shots. This file is 163sec/183Mb long, converted to avi in MP4Cam2AVI_v2.29, so there is no quality loss. I´m trying to upload a new file with 124 shots, 10 minutes/650 Mb, but I´m having some problems to upload this ammount of data. Nice shots, Bo. This landscape seems to be a very beatiful place. Thaks to all, and sorry about my english, I´m from Madrid (Spain). The file: http://files.filefront.com/HD1Footag.../fileinfo.html I hope you enjoy this! Bye!

May 10th, 2006, 12:42 PM	#4
Carlos Serrano Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Madrid, Spain. Posts: 31	124 shots. Thanks Bo. The 124 shots file: http://files.filefront.com/HD1Footag.../fileinfo.html Enjoy!

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May 10th, 2006, 09:17 AM	#3
Bo Lorentzen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Los Angeles - California Posts: 114	Carlos, WOW, now thats a serious sample. and nice looking also. I would say that for anyone wanting to see what the Sanyo can make this is a worthwhile download. Bo www.bophoto.com/HDV

May 10th, 2006, 03:12 PM	#5
Euisung Lee Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 57	Carlos, Fantastic footage indeed! Is the sun in Madrid doing the magic here? ;) Can you share the general information of your setup? ISO, focus, exposure, stablization... Thanks

May 10th, 2006, 03:24 PM	#6
Erick Hanoteau Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Brussels Belgium Posts: 47	Hi Carlos, Congratulations! Please see my next post....wrong manipulation...sorry

May 10th, 2006, 03:31 PM	#7
Erick Hanoteau Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Brussels Belgium Posts: 47	Hi Carlos, I do really hope that I am not dreaming.... I 've got my camera since only a few days but unfortunately, without having the time yet to experiment but, really, I wasn't expecting so much...such a quality! What I have learned from your footage is that I urgently need a tripod and consequently and according to Sanyo, I will have to desactivate the stabilization. Am I correct?

May 10th, 2006, 03:57 PM	#9
Erick Hanoteau Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Brussels Belgium Posts: 47	Oh sure Bo, I am so excited by these results. Now, I will have to learn using it in ideal conditions. A new challenge is born..;>)

May 10th, 2006, 07:17 PM	#10
Carlos Serrano Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Madrid, Spain. Posts: 31	Hi, Thanks for your comments. The clips were shooted with different settings, I´m still learning to use it, but most of them was: Tripod and Remote Control (to eliminate vibrations when zooming or pressing buttons). Image Stabilizer: OFF Exposition Measure: MULTI Iso: Auto and 50 White balance: AUTO Filter: NO Manual Exposure: S (F AUTO, Shutter 1/60) Scene Select: FULL AUTO. No Noise Reduction, No Flicker reduction, no Digital Zoom. I´ve noticed that sometimes the footage looks sharper when zoomed. It´s a shame the diagonal "\" bug of the codec/scaler, if Sanyo corrects it with a firmware update, the quality could be amazing in good light conditions for a camcorder of this price. I´m e-mailing Sanyo reporting the bug. If many users e-mail them, maybe they will correct it soon. I´m telling them too to keep the video out when shooting, and a higher bitrate option. This would be great. Thanks again. Bye! Carlos Serrano. CG Animator. www.i-real3d.com

May 11th, 2006, 06:04 PM	#11
Stephen Chan Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 26	Carlos, thank you for the great footage. You opened my eyes. The HD1 has much better movie mode than any still digital camera. Thanks again.

May 12th, 2006, 07:09 PM	#12
Felipe Del Villar Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 28	Carlos, Those are great videos....I wish I had the artistic skill. How do you do it with the focus....my camera seems to be constantly "fishing" for focus....did you lock it? How about those ones where you change the focus...are you doing it it by hand? can you use the remote? or maybe your HD1 knows how to do cool focus changes? Thanks, Felipe

May 12th, 2006, 08:36 PM	#13
Carlos Serrano Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Madrid, Spain. Posts: 31	Stephen, I´m happy if the information has been usefull for you.:) Felipe, about the changing focus question, the answer is... casuality. I´ve selected the best looking part of each shot. For the constant focus, manual or locked. I think in this camera we cannot change the focus manually when recording. I´m trying to make a 35mm adapter for the HD1, this will solve the problem (and will give a film look to the footage). Thanks again! Bye!

May 12th, 2006, 10:54 PM	#14
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