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Sony PXW-Z280, Z190, X180 etc. (going back to EX3 & EX1) recording to SxS flash memory.

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Old December 22nd, 2007, 06:11 PM   #1
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Picture Profile Settings...

There's been some discussion regarding "in camera" image adjustments.
Some feel the best way is to capture the most natural color correct image as possible and tweak it to your liking in post.

Here's a link I found from Sony that has some changes, mainly gama curve changes to effectively widen the unit’s expressive range.

http://www.sony.co.uk/biz/view/ShowC...=1193315622112


If you have any picture profile settings you find interesting, please post them in this thread.
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Old December 22nd, 2007, 06:55 PM   #2
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At the Sony US site they have scene profiles for XDCAM cameras. There's nothing for EX1 yet but it would be nice if they had some.

http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Broadcastan...eneFiles.shtml
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Old December 24th, 2007, 06:28 PM   #3
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Maybe it would be nice, now that more and more people are getting their cameras, to have a thread to share Picture Profile Recipes for some interesting looks (bleach bypass, cross process, wide latitude, etc).
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Old December 24th, 2007, 07:16 PM   #4
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I had good luck getting this concept going in our Canon XH series camcorder forum, but not in our Sony V1 forum. Here's hoping it'll really catch on here. This should be the single most popular trading spot for picture profiles... if we can get a couple going, it should catch on pretty quickly.
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Old December 24th, 2007, 07:34 PM   #5
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if we can get a couple going, it should catch on pretty quickly.
OK, Chris, here's a start. I've set up a couple of PP's that have the following characteristics:

HISAT - The Matrix Select has been set to HISAT with the Level changed to 25; Gamma Select is set to CINE1. This set of setting provides much richer colors yet preserves some shadow detail.

HISATBLK - Same settings as preceding plus BLACK GAMMA has been set to +25 to open up the shadows.

The file below also shows the default settings for reference.

Let the games begin!

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Old January 7th, 2008, 01:16 PM   #6
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Carroll thanks for the settings I tried both and the factory setting (ugh) yours were better. Today I will try two new setting and let you know what I think. My goal is to have a setting close to the rich colors I had on my Canon A1 with Steve's Vivid and still have rich blacks. More soon.

We need to get this rolling the way the Canon A1 forum ran. It was fantastic.
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Old January 7th, 2008, 03:35 PM   #7
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Page 76 of the manual talks about storing and retrieving camera set-up (including picture profiles) on the SxS card. My camera is *supposed to be* in transit so I can't do any testing now but wouldn't it be great if there was a way to attach picture profiles to this message board that could easily be downloaded?

Someone figure out how to do that before my camera arrives. :)
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Old January 7th, 2008, 04:46 PM   #8
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but wouldn't it be great if there was a way to attach picture profiles to this message board that could easily be downloaded?

Someone figure out how to do that before my camera arrives. :)
It is easy to upload a setting file for download. The problem is that it contains all the camera settings not just the PPs.

The time that it takes to read and enter the PP settings from a list, such as the one I posted, is for all intents and purposes faster than downloading a file, loading onto a card with a pc, moving it the EX1 for upload, and then changing the nonb-PP settings to your own preferences.

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Old January 7th, 2008, 05:10 PM   #9
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Hi Carroll sorry I ran into a Final Cut Pro Scratch disk problem with EX1 footage today so no shooting.

I will try two new PP settings tomorrow and let you know the settings if they are worth looking at. I have time the next few weeks prior to months of busy shooting to test settings so lets see if we can move this along. Thanks for getting it started.
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Old January 7th, 2008, 08:44 PM   #10
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Thanks for getting it started.
Looking forward to more inputs. Let's hope others contribute also.

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Old January 7th, 2008, 09:40 PM   #11
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Carroll, et all

I took the liberty of adding two more to your XL spreadsheet (in red at top).

One is for film, the other TV.

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Old January 7th, 2008, 09:50 PM   #12
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I took the liberty of adding two more to your XL spreadsheet (in red at top).

One is for film, the other TV.
Thanks, Jim. Any rationale for how you came up with those settings?

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Old January 7th, 2008, 09:56 PM   #13
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All were from the XDCam. The file setting came from Allister Chapman (I think).

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Old January 8th, 2008, 08:35 AM   #14
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All were from the XDCam. The file setting came from Allister Chapman (I think).

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Thanks, Jim, I'll give them a try.

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I will also try today since I solved my FC problem and the weather is spring like.
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