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Joel Corral · December 16th, 2003, 11:22 PM

hi,

i have a new gl2. i have the oportunity to trade it for a hardly used (under 15 hours) XL1 with extras. does anyone think it is a fair trade. what would i gain and what would i lose. i know that the xl1 is older model but is the image just as good as the xl1s or the gl2? i know that the xl1 is alot more hevy than the gl2 but i dont really care about the weight difference.

please help

joel

Ken Tanaka · December 16th, 2003, 11:43 PM

Stick with the GL2. If it was a trade for an XL1s, and you really needed the benefits of that platform my opinion would be different.

Joel, please take the following suggestion in the contructive manner in which I offer it. It's my impression, admittedly from afar and only from your posts, that you've spent a tremendous amount of energy worrying about whether or not you have the "right" camera. Consider refocusing from trading, selling or bartering the GL2 and devote your energy to learning how to use the camera well. Back away from video boards (like this one) for a while, which can sometimes fuel this consumerist uncertainty. Just start shooting and reviewing your shots. The GL2 is an excellent camera. I guarantee you will find such experience far more rewarding.

Joel Corral · December 17th, 2003, 12:26 AM

ken,

thanks for your input. ya i am concerned about my purchase of the gl2. and your right i do indeed need to learn how to shoot it. i just sometimes feel that the gl2's picture quality is sub par compared to the xl1(s). i feel i should have forked out the extra "G" for the xl1(s).

Ken Tanaka · December 17th, 2003, 12:51 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Joel Corral : i just sometimes feel that the gl2's picture quality is sub par compared to the xl1(s). -->>>

As an owner of both cameras, and former owner of an XL1, I can assure you that you're primarily mistaken. Lensing options aside, the skills of the photographer make far, far more difference than the model of camera in the end product. Unconvinced? Watch some of our Lady X Films episodes (without first looking at the cameras the producers used) as an example.

Joel Corral · December 17th, 2003, 09:38 PM

ok,

thanks ill do that. and get back to you. thanks again.

Joel Corral · December 18th, 2003, 04:48 PM

wow,

i guess i'd better stick with the gl2 then. i saw the lady x films and the gl2 was just as good as any other camera used to shoot those indi. although those films arent in full res. but i think i get the point here.

thanks

Dylan Couper · December 18th, 2003, 06:27 PM

Joel, spend the $1000 you saved by not buying an XL1s on a light kit. No one will care what you shoot on.

Michael Dalton · December 18th, 2003, 07:08 PM

I took both an Xl1s and a Gl2 to shoot in Africa, and i found myself using the Gl2 alot more for wildlife because it had that little extra push that I need. It was all a little more portable which made me happy.

That being said, I lugged both to the top of Kilimanjaro, and used the Xl1s most of the time with the 3x lens. The lens options make the Xl1 better, but do you really need it?

mds

December 16th, 2003, 11:22 PM	#1
Joel Corral Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brea, CA Posts: 356	need advice on xl1 or gl2 hi, i have a new gl2. i have the oportunity to trade it for a hardly used (under 15 hours) XL1 with extras. does anyone think it is a fair trade. what would i gain and what would i lose. i know that the xl1 is older model but is the image just as good as the xl1s or the gl2? i know that the xl1 is alot more hevy than the gl2 but i dont really care about the weight difference. please help joel

December 16th, 2003, 11:43 PM	#2
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Stick with the GL2. If it was a trade for an XL1s, and you really needed the benefits of that platform my opinion would be different. Joel, please take the following suggestion in the contructive manner in which I offer it. It's my impression, admittedly from afar and only from your posts, that you've spent a tremendous amount of energy worrying about whether or not you have the "right" camera. Consider refocusing from trading, selling or bartering the GL2 and devote your energy to learning how to use the camera well. Back away from video boards (like this one) for a while, which can sometimes fuel this consumerist uncertainty. Just start shooting and reviewing your shots. The GL2 is an excellent camera. I guarantee you will find such experience far more rewarding. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

December 17th, 2003, 12:51 AM	#4
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	<<<-- Originally posted by Joel Corral : i just sometimes feel that the gl2's picture quality is sub par compared to the xl1(s). -->>> As an owner of both cameras, and former owner of an XL1, I can assure you that you're primarily mistaken. Lensing options aside, the skills of the photographer make far, far more difference than the model of camera in the end product. Unconvinced? Watch some of our Lady X Films episodes (without first looking at the cameras the producers used) as an example. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

December 18th, 2003, 06:27 PM	#7
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Joel, spend the $1000 you saved by not buying an XL1s on a light kit. No one will care what you shoot on. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

December 18th, 2003, 07:08 PM	#8
Michael Dalton Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Torotnto, Canada Posts: 139	I took both to africa I took both an Xl1s and a Gl2 to shoot in Africa, and i found myself using the Gl2 alot more for wildlife because it had that little extra push that I need. It was all a little more portable which made me happy. That being said, I lugged both to the top of Kilimanjaro, and used the Xl1s most of the time with the 3x lens. The lens options make the Xl1 better, but do you really need it? mds __________________ www.digitalcrossing.ca www.4kafrica.com documentary filmmaker/screen writer

December 17th, 2003, 12:26 AM	#3
Joel Corral Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brea, CA Posts: 356	ken, thanks for your input. ya i am concerned about my purchase of the gl2. and your right i do indeed need to learn how to shoot it. i just sometimes feel that the gl2's picture quality is sub par compared to the xl1(s). i feel i should have forked out the extra "G" for the xl1(s).

December 17th, 2003, 09:38 PM	#5
Joel Corral Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brea, CA Posts: 356	ok, thanks ill do that. and get back to you. thanks again.

December 18th, 2003, 04:48 PM	#6
Joel Corral Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brea, CA Posts: 356	wow, i guess i'd better stick with the gl2 then. i saw the lady x films and the gl2 was just as good as any other camera used to shoot those indi. although those films arent in full res. but i think i get the point here. thanks