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Old August 3rd, 2012, 03:37 PM   #16
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Re: New Beamsplitter on the market.

Looking forward to learn how you adjust your heights and tilt.

You really need to totally block light from entering the back of the mirror box. It will seriously degrade the mirror performance and the top camera will be able to see the bottom of the mirror box.
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 04:01 PM   #17
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Thank you Alister for pointing that out!

I forgot to mention that the rig is frequently featured in the video without the all of the back and top light blocking pieces in place. (I found that the black on black was difficult to see at times.) Calibration video coming soon.
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Old August 4th, 2012, 12:18 AM   #18
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Wolfgang, I do it similarly. I first name the pairs whatever_L/(or R). Place them ontimeline and align by audio. I then shorten the one starting sooner, and return into bin. Kill the one with the same name, originally in the bin. I don't bother with the end at this tme, and stereo pair the two, now starting at the same time. That's it, it is actually quite quick, because I use cricket clicker to mark the sound on both cameras. Not automatic, but just as fast as with any other stereo editor I used (4). I generally cut-off just about all the clip ends once I have them paired and on the timeline. Stereo cameras of course don't need that step. Some editors, like Stereo3D Toolbox do auto-align (with FCP-X).
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Old August 4th, 2012, 09:38 AM   #19
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I use cricket clicker to mark the sound on both cameras.
Ah, so that explains the mysterious clicks in your videos. I have been wondering what they were for quite some time, but now, mystery solved. :)
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Old August 4th, 2012, 12:48 PM   #20
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Yes, I should do a cleaner job and edit the click out, but I am just having fun. Apparently "Pluraleyes" for Edius will also align the tracks, but I didn't spend much time with it and I never figured out how to use it. It is normally used for multicam sync. (Sorry Jesse for hijacking your thread. This is the last, I promise and apologize.)
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Old August 9th, 2012, 01:18 PM   #21
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Re: New Beamsplitter on the market.

So, I have paid and ordered the rig yesterday. I am keen to see how it works..... :)
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Old August 11th, 2012, 04:35 PM   #22
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Re: New Beamsplitter on the market.

Here's a quick general assembly video which goes over mounting the camera plates and other general features.
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Old August 12th, 2012, 03:00 PM   #23
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One of the big breakthroughs we made on the Robert Rig was in isolating the camera axis for alignment. Check it out here.
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Old August 12th, 2012, 04:13 PM   #24
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Looks great - thank you for the video, that seems to be a great concept to adjust the rig. Maybe that has to be done with the cameras installed again (my experience is that the cameras are also not 100% equal).
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Old August 12th, 2012, 04:44 PM   #25
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Looks great - thank you for the video, that seems to be a great concept to adjust the rig. Maybe that has to be done with the cameras installed again (my experience is that the cameras are also not 100% equal).
Yes. Depending on your set-up you can run the cameras through StereoCat or a monitor for finer alignment. This will get you close enough to fine tune the alignment in post. What's nice is you can actually tune the rig to accomodate a known discrepancy in your cameras (i.e. I've shot with different brand 28mm lenses). So, as long as you mount them the same way each time you'll be set. Of course, if you're using zooms that can change over the course of the zoom. So, it's not a solution for every situation.
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Old August 13th, 2012, 12:10 AM   #26
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Re: New Beamsplitter on the market.

I am aware of that geometric issues for cameras, Jesse. That is why I ended up to adjust my two consumter TD10 cameras at full zoom, that brings you a limited error at full wide angel.

That is also something that will be necessary I think - to allocate the cameras to L and R in the rig, and to fine-tune the adjustment using the cameras.
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Old August 21st, 2012, 09:16 AM   #27
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Re: New Beamsplitter on the market.

My rig has arrived today. I am keen to start to test it - but first I will have to assemble it (what is not the standard situation since we have decided to split it up in the parts to minimise the transportation costs).
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Old October 21st, 2012, 12:17 AM   #28
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Any news /reviews of the Robert Rig?
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Old October 21st, 2012, 06:47 AM   #29
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Re: New Beamsplitter on the market.

What do you wish to know? I have done some tests here, for my two consumer-cameras TD10 Robert had to send me some specific plates. The geometric adjustment works fine so far but needs some time, even if I still did not have the time to perform the final tests due to workload and absence driven by my job.
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Old October 21st, 2012, 12:54 PM   #30
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Re: New Beamsplitter on the market.

Thanks for checking in Maheel,

Lots of great feedback from my beta testers on the rig. I've made the following improvements:
- Upgraded Matte Flaps to aluminum
- Upgraded top and rear light shields to aluminum
- Improved internal and front light blocking
- Durable vinyl 3D alignment chart
- Vinyl IO scales
- Eyebrow shim
- Glass set-pins changed to black and matching allen wrench adjustment
- Double nylon washers for shoulder bolts, easier to adjust

I'm working through some other tweaks to the rig and will keep the forum updated as to my progress.
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