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Barry Gribble · March 24th, 2004, 03:10 PM

Seems mic stands are the topic of the day :)

I am going to be shooting some dialogue scenes this weekend, and I am likely to not have a dedicated sound person to use my boom arm for the ME-66. The dialog is completely stationary though, so I was wondering if I could just get a large fixed boom arm and lock the mic above the speakers.... Do people do that?

Someone mentioned using a C-stand for this... I haven't used one of those for anything...

The boom would have to extend maybe 10ft past it's base for this... is that possible?

I have a budget, but would rather not spend a lot.... I happen to be going by B&H tomorrow....

Thanks in advance.

Barry Rivadue · March 24th, 2004, 03:14 PM

Nice to know another Barry has a microphone problem. I have no answer though. :) Still, I was wondering about C-stands too.

Mike Rehmus · March 24th, 2004, 07:00 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Barry Gribble : Seems mic stands are the topic of the day :)

I am going to be shooting some dialogue scenes this weekend, and I am likely to not have a dedicated sound person to use my boom arm for the ME-66. The dialog is completely stationary though, so I was wondering if I could just get a large fixed boom arm and lock the mic above the speakers.... Do people do that?
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Alll the time. If you see a television studio they have specific cranes for this. Nobody can hold a portable boom for 28 minutes.
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Someone mentioned using a C-stand for this... I haven't used one of those for anything...
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No, what you want is a boom pole holder if you want to keep the cost low and you already have a pole. Gravity holds the boom in place. the holder mounts to something sturdy or you can counterbalance the pole or both.
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The boom would have to extend maybe 10ft past it's base for this... is that possible?
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I've use a crane that has a 30 foot reach. The hard thing will be getting a counterbalance for your pole. Maybe a couple of weights from an exercise set would work.
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I have a budget, but would rather not spend a lot.... I happen to be going by B&H tomorrow....

Thanks in advance. -->>>

Bryan Beasleigh · March 24th, 2004, 07:17 PM

I use a manfrotto combination boom stand. You can find them in B&H for $140 for silver and $160 for black. It has an 84" reach

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=152013&is=REG

The stand can be used as a straight light stand or a boom stand, it works for mics as well. It also has a very healthy weight rating.
It carries my softbox so a mic is childs play.

I have shorter stands for smaller settings.

Patrick Bower · March 25th, 2004, 04:45 PM

I use a carbon fibre fishing pole, mounted on a lighting stand. Microphone fixed in a shock mount, attached with a half ins. thread eye taped to the tip of the pole, and a bag with some encyclopaedias in it as a counterweight at the other end. The fishing pole lies horizonally on 2 U shaped supports screwed into a piece of 2x1 timber, clamped to the lighting stand with a Manfrotto superclamp.

How far you can extend it depends on the length and strength of the fishing pole, and the weight of the microphone. I have gone as far as 16 feet beyond the stand.

Downside is that it is potentially unstable, so only safe if no-one is going to be walking near the stand.

The pro equivalent is the Ambient Jumbo boom.
http://www.firstsense.co.uk/Ambient/jumbo.htm

Patrick

Richard Alvarez · March 25th, 2004, 05:02 PM

Used a C-stand this past weekend. Clamped the boom pole in the clamp, worked just fine. I did drop TWO sandbags on the legs to keep it steady.

Marty Atias · March 27th, 2004, 01:02 PM

I may have got hee too late for you (it's Sat morning), but for future reference, there two solutions:

1. a studio mic stand with a boom. it will take a rather large and expensive one to reach that far out.

2. If you have a microphone boom pole, you can get a cradle to hold the boom on a heavy light stand. You can see one here:

http://atscomms.com/Grip/grip.html

March 24th, 2004, 03:10 PM	#1
Barry Gribble Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 817	Big Boom Seems mic stands are the topic of the day :) I am going to be shooting some dialogue scenes this weekend, and I am likely to not have a dedicated sound person to use my boom arm for the ME-66. The dialog is completely stationary though, so I was wondering if I could just get a large fixed boom arm and lock the mic above the speakers.... Do people do that? Someone mentioned using a C-stand for this... I haven't used one of those for anything... The boom would have to extend maybe 10ft past it's base for this... is that possible? I have a budget, but would rather not spend a lot.... I happen to be going by B&H tomorrow.... Thanks in advance.

March 24th, 2004, 07:00 PM	#3
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	Re: Big Boom <<<-- Originally posted by Barry Gribble : Seems mic stands are the topic of the day :) I am going to be shooting some dialogue scenes this weekend, and I am likely to not have a dedicated sound person to use my boom arm for the ME-66. The dialog is completely stationary though, so I was wondering if I could just get a large fixed boom arm and lock the mic above the speakers.... Do people do that? --------------------- Alll the time. If you see a television studio they have specific cranes for this. Nobody can hold a portable boom for 28 minutes. ---------------------- Someone mentioned using a C-stand for this... I haven't used one of those for anything... ---------------------- No, what you want is a boom pole holder if you want to keep the cost low and you already have a pole. Gravity holds the boom in place. the holder mounts to something sturdy or you can counterbalance the pole or both. --------------------- The boom would have to extend maybe 10ft past it's base for this... is that possible? ------------------ I've use a crane that has a 30 foot reach. The hard thing will be getting a counterbalance for your pole. Maybe a couple of weights from an exercise set would work. --------------------------- I have a budget, but would rather not spend a lot.... I happen to be going by B&H tomorrow.... Thanks in advance. -->>> __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

March 24th, 2004, 03:14 PM	#2
Barry Rivadue Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 508	Nice to know another Barry has a microphone problem. I have no answer though. :) Still, I was wondering about C-stands too.

March 24th, 2004, 07:17 PM	#4
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	I use a manfrotto combination boom stand. You can find them in B&H for $140 for silver and $160 for black. It has an 84" reach http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=152013&is=REG The stand can be used as a straight light stand or a boom stand, it works for mics as well. It also has a very healthy weight rating. It carries my softbox so a mic is childs play. I have shorter stands for smaller settings.

March 25th, 2004, 04:45 PM	#5
Patrick Bower Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London, England Posts: 126	I use a carbon fibre fishing pole, mounted on a lighting stand. Microphone fixed in a shock mount, attached with a half ins. thread eye taped to the tip of the pole, and a bag with some encyclopaedias in it as a counterweight at the other end. The fishing pole lies horizonally on 2 U shaped supports screwed into a piece of 2x1 timber, clamped to the lighting stand with a Manfrotto superclamp. How far you can extend it depends on the length and strength of the fishing pole, and the weight of the microphone. I have gone as far as 16 feet beyond the stand. Downside is that it is potentially unstable, so only safe if no-one is going to be walking near the stand. The pro equivalent is the Ambient Jumbo boom. http://www.firstsense.co.uk/Ambient/jumbo.htm Patrick

March 25th, 2004, 05:02 PM	#6
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Used a C-stand this past weekend. Clamped the boom pole in the clamp, worked just fine. I did drop TWO sandbags on the legs to keep it steady.

March 27th, 2004, 01:02 PM	#7
Marty Atias Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 91	I may have got hee too late for you (it's Sat morning), but for future reference, there two solutions: 1. a studio mic stand with a boom. it will take a rather large and expensive one to reach that far out. 2. If you have a microphone boom pole, you can get a cradle to hold the boom on a heavy light stand. You can see one here: http://atscomms.com/Grip/grip.html