Avid / Pinnacle discussions from 2004

Monique Lyons · February 6th, 2004, 02:06 PM

New cam and new software: beginner...I am having trouble with auto configure. First I tried with 4x4 pin and then firewire card and adapter (4x6) ...message says: waiting in both cases. Frustrated and wanting to begin logging and creating etc.

many thanks

Ken Tanaka · February 6th, 2004, 03:31 PM

Mac or PC?

Monique Lyons · February 6th, 2004, 03:35 PM

pc

Ken Tanaka · February 6th, 2004, 03:52 PM

Thanks Monique. I've moved your thread here for better topical exposure. (Sorry, I'm a Mac/FCP4 user myself so I have nothing to offer you.)

Dustin Waits · February 10th, 2004, 08:49 AM

I noticed that at www.videoguys.com they are selling Avid Express Pro to students for $395 (valued at $1695 USMSRP).
I am really excited about this because I'm starting school at Full Sail soon. But is this the true version of Express Pro? Or is it cut down or limited at all?

Here is the link http://www.videoguys.com/avid.html

Richard Alvarez · February 10th, 2004, 09:17 AM

As I understand it, the student version does not include the hard copies of the manuals, (just pdf files) and because they are "student" versions, you are not "licensed" to use them for commercial purposes. This is essentially true of most "student" versions of software. Other than that, I think it's the same version of Xpress Pro. I am not sure if it comes with all the extra goodies... boris, etc. However. Check the Avid site www.avid.com for more info

Dustin Waits · February 10th, 2004, 09:21 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Richard Alvarez : As I understand it, the student version does not include the hard copies of the manuals, (just pdf files) and because they are "student" versions, you are not "licensed" to use them for commercial purposes. This is essentially true of most "student" versions of software. Other than that, I think it's the same version of Xpress Pro. I am not sure if it comes with all the extra goodies... boris, etc. However. Check the Avid site www.avid.com for more info -->>>

I searched around Avid's web site and found nothing on student versions of their software. It makes me wonder if Videoguys.com is just selling the regular Express Pro software to students for cheap as their own sale/deal thing and Avid itself has nothing to do with it.

Mike Gunter · February 10th, 2004, 12:47 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Dustin Waits : -->>>

I searched around Avid's web site and found nothing on student versions of their software. It makes me wonder if Videoguys.com is just selling the regular Express Pro software to students for cheap as their own sale/deal thing and Avid itself has nothing to do with it. -->>>

No.

Avid, as well as Adobe, has Educational Branded software for students and teachers.

As Richard says, it is *not* for commercial use.

Dustin Waits · February 10th, 2004, 01:11 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Mike Gunter : <<<-- Originally posted by Dustin Waits : -->>>

I searched around Avid's web site and found nothing on student versions of their software. It makes me wonder if Videoguys.com is just selling the regular Express Pro software to students for cheap as their own sale/deal thing and Avid itself has nothing to do with it. -->>>

No.

Avid, as well as Adobe, has Educational Branded software for students and teachers.

As Richard says, it is *not* for commercial use. -->>>

Oh okay thanks.

Gary Bettan · February 10th, 2004, 01:15 PM

The Avid Student pack is an official Avid product. It is the full Avid Xpress Software application and all Avid utilities / plug-ins. You do not get any of the third party software (ReelDVD le, Sorenson Squeeze, Boris).

If you click on the Education Info link on the Xpress Pro product page it will take you to http://www.avid.com/products/xpresspro/eduPricing.asp

This special version is for student use only. Technically you are supposed to pay more and upgrade to a fully licensed version after school if you intend to edit a professional project with it. I don't know how Avid can possibly know if you don't.

Gary
Videoguys.com

Dustin Waits · February 11th, 2004, 11:50 AM

Okay I found the part of Avid's web site that explains the edupack.

Another question though....Will Express Pro run smoothly on my system? On the specifications list ( http://www.avid.com/products/xpresspro/specs.asp#pc ) my pc does not show up.

Here's what I have:

Dell Demension 4500
Windows XP Home
P4 2.4 ghz
1 gig ram
80 gig boot drive
120 gig storage
Nvidia Geforce4 video card
Soundblaster live 5.1 audio
Microsoft firewire card

Gary Bettan · February 11th, 2004, 12:11 PM

should run fine on your system. Glad to see the full GB of RAM.

Gary

Adrian Douglas · February 13th, 2004, 08:44 AM

Is anyone using the Parhelia 128 and Avid Express? If so, can you get full screen preview on a TV/monitor when using dual RGB monitors. Matrox provides a software utility for this to work with Premiere, AE, and Photoshop but I'll be using Avid Express Pro and want to be able to preview on my TV without rendering and going through my camera.

John Threat · February 13th, 2004, 11:25 PM

It works fine. I use the Parhelia with Avid Xpress Pro and you get full screen preview on the 3rd features monitor. Keep in mind that it will be a single rendered frame, which can fool you when you are working with interlaced footage.

Adrian Douglas · February 14th, 2004, 07:24 AM

Thanks John,

I mainly want to get the idea of how things will look as I'm working. I guess f or the final check everything will have to be rendered and run through an ADVC to the monitor.

PS check your sig mate

February 6th, 2004, 02:06 PM	#31
Monique Lyons Tourist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2	Canon GL2 and Xpress Avid DV New cam and new software: beginner...I am having trouble with auto configure. First I tried with 4x4 pin and then firewire card and adapter (4x6) ...message says: waiting in both cases. Frustrated and wanting to begin logging and creating etc. many thanks

February 6th, 2004, 03:31 PM	#32
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Mac or PC? __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

February 6th, 2004, 03:35 PM	#33
Monique Lyons Tourist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2	xpress avid pc

February 6th, 2004, 03:52 PM	#34
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Thanks Monique. I've moved your thread here for better topical exposure. (Sorry, I'm a Mac/FCP4 user myself so I have nothing to offer you.) __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

February 10th, 2004, 08:49 AM	#35
Dustin Waits Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ft. Myers Beach, Fl Posts: 243	Avid Express Pro EduPack... I noticed that at www.videoguys.com they are selling Avid Express Pro to students for $395 (valued at $1695 USMSRP). I am really excited about this because I'm starting school at Full Sail soon. But is this the true version of Express Pro? Or is it cut down or limited at all? Here is the link http://www.videoguys.com/avid.html

February 10th, 2004, 09:17 AM	#36
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	As I understand it, the student version does not include the hard copies of the manuals, (just pdf files) and because they are "student" versions, you are not "licensed" to use them for commercial purposes. This is essentially true of most "student" versions of software. Other than that, I think it's the same version of Xpress Pro. I am not sure if it comes with all the extra goodies... boris, etc. However. Check the Avid site www.avid.com for more info

February 10th, 2004, 09:21 AM	#37
Dustin Waits Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ft. Myers Beach, Fl Posts: 243	<<<-- Originally posted by Richard Alvarez : As I understand it, the student version does not include the hard copies of the manuals, (just pdf files) and because they are "student" versions, you are not "licensed" to use them for commercial purposes. This is essentially true of most "student" versions of software. Other than that, I think it's the same version of Xpress Pro. I am not sure if it comes with all the extra goodies... boris, etc. However. Check the Avid site www.avid.com for more info -->>> I searched around Avid's web site and found nothing on student versions of their software. It makes me wonder if Videoguys.com is just selling the regular Express Pro software to students for cheap as their own sale/deal thing and Avid itself has nothing to do with it.

February 10th, 2004, 12:47 PM	#38
Mike Gunter Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalispell, Montana Posts: 164	<<<-- Originally posted by Dustin Waits : -->>> I searched around Avid's web site and found nothing on student versions of their software. It makes me wonder if Videoguys.com is just selling the regular Express Pro software to students for cheap as their own sale/deal thing and Avid itself has nothing to do with it. -->>> No. Avid, as well as Adobe, has Educational Branded software for students and teachers. As Richard says, it is not for commercial use. __________________ Mike Gunter VideoTidbits.com

February 10th, 2004, 01:11 PM	#39
Dustin Waits Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ft. Myers Beach, Fl Posts: 243	<<<-- Originally posted by Mike Gunter : <<<-- Originally posted by Dustin Waits : -->>> I searched around Avid's web site and found nothing on student versions of their software. It makes me wonder if Videoguys.com is just selling the regular Express Pro software to students for cheap as their own sale/deal thing and Avid itself has nothing to do with it. -->>> No. Avid, as well as Adobe, has Educational Branded software for students and teachers. As Richard says, it is not for commercial use. -->>> Oh okay thanks.

February 10th, 2004, 01:15 PM	#40
Gary Bettan Sponsor: Electronic Mailbox Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Glen Cove, NY Posts: 757	The Avid Student pack is an official Avid product. It is the full Avid Xpress Software application and all Avid utilities / plug-ins. You do not get any of the third party software (ReelDVD le, Sorenson Squeeze, Boris). If you click on the Education Info link on the Xpress Pro product page it will take you to http://www.avid.com/products/xpresspro/eduPricing.asp This special version is for student use only. Technically you are supposed to pay more and upgrade to a fully licensed version after school if you intend to edit a professional project with it. I don't know how Avid can possibly know if you don't. Gary Videoguys.com __________________ Check out http://www.videoguys.com 800 323-2325 We are the video editing and live video production experts! DV InfoNet members save 5%! Use Coupon Code DVINFO5OFF

February 11th, 2004, 11:50 AM	#41
Dustin Waits Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ft. Myers Beach, Fl Posts: 243	Okay I found the part of Avid's web site that explains the edupack. Another question though....Will Express Pro run smoothly on my system? On the specifications list ( http://www.avid.com/products/xpresspro/specs.asp#pc ) my pc does not show up. Here's what I have: Dell Demension 4500 Windows XP Home P4 2.4 ghz 1 gig ram 80 gig boot drive 120 gig storage Nvidia Geforce4 video card Soundblaster live 5.1 audio Microsoft firewire card

February 11th, 2004, 12:11 PM	#42
Gary Bettan Sponsor: Electronic Mailbox Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Glen Cove, NY Posts: 757	should run fine on your system. Glad to see the full GB of RAM. Gary __________________ Check out http://www.videoguys.com 800 323-2325 We are the video editing and live video production experts! DV InfoNet members save 5%! Use Coupon Code DVINFO5OFF

February 13th, 2004, 08:44 AM	#43
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	Parhelia and Avid Xpress Is anyone using the Parhelia 128 and Avid Express? If so, can you get full screen preview on a TV/monitor when using dual RGB monitors. Matrox provides a software utility for this to work with Premiere, AE, and Photoshop but I'll be using Avid Express Pro and want to be able to preview on my TV without rendering and going through my camera. __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

February 13th, 2004, 11:25 PM	#44
John Threat Major Player Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 322	It works fine. I use the Parhelia with Avid Xpress Pro and you get full screen preview on the 3rd features monitor. Keep in mind that it will be a single rendered frame, which can fool you when you are working with interlaced footage. __________________ Director: http://www.mediathreat.com

February 14th, 2004, 07:24 AM	#45
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	Thanks John, I mainly want to get the idea of how things will look as I'm working. I guess f or the final check everything will have to be rendered and run through an ADVC to the monitor. PS check your sig mate __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors