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APS-C sensor cameras including the 80D, 70D, 7D Mk. II, 7D, EOS M and Rebel models for HD video recording.


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Old March 6th, 2010, 08:36 PM   #16
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Old March 6th, 2010, 08:42 PM   #17
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what do you think was a better choice of combo...

main camera = sony ex1r
backup alt = panasonic hmc150

or

main camera = sony ex1r
backup alt = canon 7d
both would be great but for totally different reasons.
If you want to use your EX1 for more of a lockdown, get the 7D for closeups and cool shots.

If you want the backup to be the lockdown, get the 150. 32gig card records 200 minutes and the lens is very wide. Use the EX1r for closeups.

I'll be using the 150 for lockdown and audio and the T2i for closeups and DOF.
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Old March 6th, 2010, 09:18 PM   #18
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sweet! i was looking at the sony nx5u but the image is too soft, the ex1r has a beautiful image...i believe thats be cause its a 3x 1/2 cmos @ 2.2mp per cmos....6.6 total...

plus the 7d shoots video quality as good or better than almost all camcorders under 15k...its very comparable to the red one and the sensors are almost the same size, and the red one is 12.1mp and the 7d is 19mp, so with some proper post grading, and picture presets, the 7d is a beast...


and i am getting bitrates in the 45-55 mbps range....thats amazing....
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Old March 6th, 2010, 09:53 PM   #19
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I've found the Bogen 560b-1 monopod with fluid foot ($130) combined with a Velbon PH-368 head ($35) a great combination. Just lock the pan knob on the head so the Bogen's fluid foot does the pans and use the Velbon's tilt. You can also tilt the monopod in conjunction with the tilt on the head to get some minor "crane" type movements when shooting closeups. Small enough to strap to a backpack and weights about 4 pounds.

Surprisingly good kit for such a small investment.
If you want to be really quick and dirty, you can use a monopod with no head, I did that today and the footage is stable.

My monopod has easily adjust sections. I think this is critical as a feature. I believe Bogen makes a trigger adjusted tripod, seems like that'd be nice.
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Old March 7th, 2010, 05:06 AM   #20
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If you want to use your EX1 for more of a lockdown, get the 7D for closeups and cool shots.
For interviews, I use the 7D for wide and the EX1 for close, that way I take advantage of the large sensor on the 7D.
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Old March 7th, 2010, 09:04 AM   #21
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The reason I suggested it that way was the 12 minute limit on recording. I'd hate to be in the middle of something great and have the camera shut off!
All my interviews must be with really long-winded people! HaHa!
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Old March 7th, 2010, 01:35 PM   #22
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For interviews, I use the 7D for wide and the EX1 for close, that way I take advantage of the large sensor on the 7D.
Can you elaborate?? Isn't the conventional wisdom to use the sharper camera for the wide shot?
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Old March 9th, 2010, 12:56 PM   #23
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Hey Doug,
That night shot on the street with the 7D looks awesome! What did you do to eliminate the lens flare from the cars driving toward you?
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Old March 9th, 2010, 01:07 PM   #24
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Zach,

I did nothing. No filter, no post, nothing. Stock Nikon lens, shooting pretty flat with (Sat & Contrast down), f-stop and ISO as noted.
If you take a look at the second street light, you can see some flare, but you are right about the cars, there doesn't seem to be any flare.

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plus the 7d shoots video quality as good or better than almost all camcorders under 15k...its very comparable to the red one and the sensors are almost the same size, and the red one is 12.1mp and the 7d is 19mp, so with some proper post grading, and picture presets, the 7d is a beast...
Corey,

I would be careful about putting these still camera with a video option on the same plane as $15,000 video cameras. There are some limitations with these DSLRs that make them less than desireable compared to video cameras.

I have done some testing with the 5D and the 7D shooting the same scene and I was not as impressed with the color and overall image of the 7d compared to the 5D.

Also, RED is not a still camera, it is a video camera that can capture a still. Stating the MP number of the sensor might not be a good comparison for video as the entire sensor is not used for video (at least in the Canon, I do not know about the RED).

When I compared the 5D, 7D scene to the EX-1, the EX-1 had a much better and true color representation. I was able to bring the 5D up to match the EX-1 through color correction but I think it is worth pointing out.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 02:47 PM   #26
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well said i agree, the ex1 is the most beautifully made camera for under 10k, at least thats what i think, or maybe ex3...

what do you think?

also what grading or plugins plus settings can i use for premiere cs4 to grade to what you did on my 7d footage?
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Old March 9th, 2010, 03:18 PM   #27
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I don't know what to use in Premiere as I use Edius, but I was just using the normal color correction tools.

There is a visual difference in the representation of colors on my broadcast monitor. Some colors are a bit under-represented and the moire is a real issue.

The EX series is tough to contend with although the Panasonic's have great color as well, both of which look better from a color perspective than the 5D/7D to me.
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